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Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 4 2022 06:12pm)
This is only a problem because Democrats can't fucking govern. Someone needs to grow some balls and get these fuckers out of office forever!

What is the homicide rate in the city? Does anyone care? Does the news talk about it?


Police murder someone acting within his rights = Democrats can't govern to you?
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Police murder someone acting within his rights = Democrats can't govern to you?


when you can't cope this is the logic that comes out
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Feb 5 2022 12:19am)
when you can't cope this is the logic that comes out


People that don't understand math like you should be banned from this forum forever.
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People that don't understand math like you should be banned from this forum forever.


math? lol
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 4 2022 09:40pm)
Because Democrats literally send cops to jail for doing their job.

You're blind as fuck. You're smarter than this.


What was Amir Locke supposed to do in this scenario? He had no opportunity to react or get his bearings. No way to tell the difference between police and armed robbers when only given a split second after waking to assess the room. Amir Locke had no chance, and the police just did their job according to their training. Neither party acted maliciously or broke the law. They were set on a collision course by a reckless no knock search warrant

No doubt Democrats will want to scapegoat the police and throw some officer under the bus. Maybe in a few years Frey will campaign on having locked up Officer Whipping Boy. It was a broken system that created this mess and put people into harms way for no justifiable reason. Especially not when the citys prosecutors are such a joke they'd just throw away any evidence obtained.
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What was Amir Locke supposed to do in this scenario? He had no opportunity to react or get his bearings. No way to tell the difference between police and armed robbers when only given a split second after waking to assess the room. Amir Locke had no chance, and the police just did their job according to their training. Neither party acted maliciously or broke the law. They were set on a collision course by a reckless no knock search warrant

No doubt Democrats will want to scapegoat the police and throw some officer under the bus. Maybe in a few years Frey will campaign on having locked up Officer Whipping Boy. It was a broken system that created this mess and put people into harms way for no justifiable reason. Especially not when the citys prosecutors are such a joke they'd just throw away any evidence obtained.


My contention is that his friend knew that he was putting Amor in danger.

I would personally be willing to scrap no knock warrants, but this type of thing doesnt happen at all in functional cities.
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My contention is that his friend knew that he was putting Amor in danger.

I would personally be willing to scrap no knock warrants, but this type of thing doesnt happen at all in functional cities.


Are there any left?
Maybe if low minority population.
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Are there any left?
Maybe if low minority population.


Some cities are run very well. Some of the richer cities in Ohio and Arizona.

Demographics does seem to be the largest factor because they are the ones that end up voting for the people in power. Gullible, immoral people will always end up voting for bad candidates.
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What was Amir Locke supposed to do in this scenario? He had no opportunity to react or get his bearings. No way to tell the difference between police and armed robbers when only given a split second after waking to assess the room. Amir Locke had no chance, and the police just did their job according to their training. Neither party acted maliciously or broke the law. They were set on a collision course by a reckless no knock search warrant

No doubt Democrats will want to scapegoat the police and throw some officer under the bus. Maybe in a few years Frey will campaign on having locked up Officer Whipping Boy. It was a broken system that created this mess and put people into harms way for no justifiable reason. Especially not when the citys prosecutors are such a joke they'd just throw away any evidence obtained.


This is effectively correct. The scenario isn't "guy drew down on cops". The scenario is "Guy sleeps with a gun because he's in an area where criminal home invasions occur regularly, is shot dead before he can even identify who broke in while he was sleeping."

The victim of this no-knock warrant, and yes, he's absolutely a victim, had the right to his firearm. He also had a right to defend himself from what he may very well have perceived as a criminal threat to his life, and indeed, turned out to have taken his life. No-knock warrants are exceedingly dangerous for exactly this reason: How is the homeowner/tenant/guest supposed to determine, especially in a high crime area, that they're police, as opposed to criminals? I mean hell, if somebody busts into your house in the middle of the night, shouting and shining lights in your eyes so you can't see them, are you going to take it on faith that they're police at all, and not criminals looking to torture and kill you and your family?

No-knock warrants are simply a violation of property rights that leads to unnecessary death. Further, they're lazy as hell. What happened to the "stake-out" and catching your suspect outside of their home? What evidence did police even have that the actual tenant of the apartment was involved in the earlier homicide? How did police not know the tenant wasn't home? Shoddy work all the way around, all allowed because politicians have tricked you into believing you have no right to your own property, your own defensive weapons, or a right to self-defense.
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