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Jan 29 2022 03:09pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 29 2022 01:08pm)
Good thing we have the discretion of prosecutors who are bluntly weaponizing the law for political purposes? They dragged this guy out of his home while he was in the middle of uploading IlhanOmarDna.com, and then didn't even maintain a pretense, they openly stated he was arrested right then because the FBI knew about his DNA evidence. So we're creating a precedent that prosecutors could use to criminalize most adult, consenting relationships, and then dismissing concerns that could be abused by people who are already abusing it.


If you don't want to be dragged out of your home by federal agents, maybe don't hire child prostitutes online. Your conspiracy theories about illhan omar don't matter here.

Also IllhanOmarDna.com looks like a right wing fever dream. You're an idiot if you genuinely believe he was pressing UPLOAD ON THE DNA EVIDENCE.

This post was edited by Sioux on Jan 29 2022 03:10pm
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Jan 29 2022 03:16pm
Republicans: “Democrats are global pedophile elites”

Also Republicans: “it’s ok if wealthy Republican politicians fuck children. At least they aren’t elites who fuck children!”
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Jan 29 2022 03:19pm
Quote (Sioux @ Jan 29 2022 03:09pm)
If you don't want to be dragged out of your home by federal agents, maybe don't hire child prostitutes online. Your conspiracy theories about illhan omar don't matter here.

Also IllhanOmarDna.com looks like a right wing fever dream. You're an idiot if you genuinely believe he was pressing UPLOAD ON THE DNA EVIDENCE.


His website was online for a matter of minutes prior to the FBI knocking down his door and the website going offline again. Which happened right after he went to the FBI and gave the DNA test to them. And all this was a year and a half after the incidents in the indictment.
He was literally in the process of uploading it as they raided his home, yes.
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Jan 29 2022 03:25pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 29 2022 01:19pm)
His website was online for a matter of minutes prior to the FBI knocking down his door and the website going offline again. Which happened right after he went to the FBI and gave the DNA test to them. And all this was a year and a half after the incidents in the indictment.
He was literally in the process of uploading it as they raided his home, yes.


Cute story. Whats more likely, the FBI cares about a right-wing partisan uploading a hit job on a random dem congresswoman, or the FBI is in the business of arresting pedophiles? Like no one cares about ILLHANOMARDNA.COM because its literally not believable. You think there's literally any amount of evidence on there?

You do know thats the genotype of some white folks right? Go look up the allele frequencies of the information they have posted. You're literally salivating over fake news to defend an actual pedophile. Like just stop. It isn't hard to say, fucking kids is wrong.

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Jan 29 2022 03:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 29 2022 01:08pm)
Good thing we have the discretion of prosecutors who are bluntly weaponizing the law for political purposes? They dragged this guy out of his home while he was in the middle of uploading IlhanOmarDna.com, and then didn't even maintain a pretense, they openly stated he was arrested right then because the FBI knew about his DNA evidence. So we're creating a precedent that prosecutors could use to criminalize most adult, consenting relationships, and then dismissing concerns that could be abused by people who are already abusing it.



There's nothing in the law to distinguish them, and what sets apart that girl's role here from any person who plays matchmaker for her friends? She met a guy on a sugar daddy website and knew girlfriends of hers that were interested in sugar daddy relationships, so she hooked them up.
Its not much legal relevancy besides the ability of prosecutors to also go after the matchmaker, like they're doing here, she's charged as an accomplice.


And what defines a "sugar daddy/baby" relationship?
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Jan 29 2022 03:42pm
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Cute story. Whats more likely, the FBI cares about a right-wing partisan uploading a hit job on a random dem congresswoman, or the FBI is in the business of arresting pedophiles? Like no one cares about ILLHANOMARDNA.COM because its literally not believable. You think there's literally any amount of evidence on there?

You do know thats the genotype of some white folks right? Go look up the allele frequencies of the information they have posted. You're literally salivating over fake news to defend an actual pedophile. Like just stop. It isn't hard to say, fucking kids is wrong.


They cared enough to shut him down, that much is clear. We already know Ilhan Omar married her own brother, that was already proven years ago by the abundant evidence, mostly her own social media pages archived before she could scrub them when the story came out. So when some shady right wing operative claims to have had agents travel to Kenya and Ilhan Omar's home to get discarded cigarette butts and drinking straws for a DNA test, I can only say its plausible. Can't assume the purported DNA test is true without anything to verify it, it could be a scenario where he faked the DNA test even though a real one would have the same results. One thing that makes me suspect the DNA test could be fraudulent is that if he actually did get DNA samples from her trash, the FBI would have probably thrown that at him as a charge for invasion of privacy.

None of that has much bearing on a story we already knew about for years prior. Just getting Ahmed Nur Said Elmi's hospital booking tags, the marriage and divorce certificates was enough, the mountain of other evidence besides. There's only one person in the entire world named Ahmed Nur Said Elmi thanks to the peculiar Somali naming tradition, and he has the same name and birth date as Ilhan Omar's brother and husband, so no big mystery there. It was up to (credible, unlike Lazarro) local journalists to untangle the web of her life and detail how her family defrauded immigration by changing their names and splitting up between the US and UK

And its worth pointing out that when the somali community whistleblowers first came out with this story and told journalists, Ilhan Omar's campaign sent thugs- including a guy who just stabbed three people- to go door to door in the somali community and tell people they must find the whistleblower and 'remove him'. Just some casual ethnic intimidation
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Jan 29 2022 03:50pm
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And what defines a "sugar daddy/baby" relationship?


I think defining relationships is what gets in the mess in the first place. Until now, the government tried to stay out of ambiguities and only criminalize direct cash-paid prostitution and unambiguous age of consent laws. They'd catch johns by setting up sting operations and arrest someone as soon as money changed hands, and they'd arrest people who slept with underage girls because age is a provable number. When the government starts trying to define the vague nature of relationships and economic conditions and gets into topics like gift giving and implied expectations, they're delving deep into the realm of reasonable doubt and trying to set up criterion that would criminalize innocent relationships between normal people.
When the law is working like it should, the bounds of criminality shouldn't be vague. If she's below the age of consent, its illegal. If they agree to an exchange of cash for sex, its illegal.

Until now those sugar daddy sites existed by exploiting that vagueness and toeing that line, but that's just a natural consequence of any law that tries to set discrete boundaries on otherwise muddle concepts.
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Jan 29 2022 03:57pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 29 2022 01:42pm)
They cared enough to shut him down, that much is clear. We already know Ilhan Omar married her own brother, that was already proven years ago by the abundant evidence, mostly her own social media pages archived before she could scrub them when the story came out. So when some shady right wing operative claims to have had agents travel to Kenya and Ilhan Omar's home to get discarded cigarette butts and drinking straws for a DNA test, I can only say its plausible. Can't assume the purported DNA test is true without anything to verify it, it could be a scenario where he faked the DNA test even though a real one would have the same results. One thing that makes me suspect the DNA test could be fraudulent is that if he actually did get DNA samples from her trash, the FBI would have probably thrown that at him as a charge for invasion of privacy.

None of that has much bearing on a story we already knew about for years prior. Just getting Ahmed Nur Said Elmi's hospital booking tags, the marriage and divorce certificates was enough, the mountain of other evidence besides. There's only one person in the entire world named Ahmed Nur Said Elmi thanks to the peculiar Somali naming tradition, and he has the same name and birth date as Ilhan Omar's brother and husband, so no big mystery there. It was up to (credible, unlike Lazarro) local journalists to untangle the web of her life and detail how her family defrauded immigration by changing their names and splitting up between the US and UK

And its worth pointing out that when the somali community whistleblowers first came out with this story and told journalists, Ilhan Omar's campaign sent thugs- including a guy who just stabbed three people- to go door to door in the somali community and tell people they must find the whistleblower and 'remove him'. Just some casual ethnic intimidation



Oh I see. Your brains so broken by right wing media you're willing to overlook an actual pedophiles crimes.
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Jan 29 2022 04:26pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jan 29 2022 03:57pm)
Did this turn into defending Matt Gaetz? Lol

GOP is basically the army of satan. They are anti-citizen as their platform. They will defend predators grooming and fucking your teenage daughters.


Wtf are you talking about, you fat melvin?
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Jan 29 2022 04:31pm
There are many tangents here.

1. Child is considered under 16 and anything over 16 is considered adult for consent purposes. Stop saying child prostitution it's not. If the age of consent is too low then raise it don't need your emotional soyspergers
2. It's prostitution OMG straight to jail!! Well technically it isn't because then it would make me buying a drink to hook up with a woman is considered prostitution also. This whole trial will hinge on this point.
3. Is using another person, paying them to look for female companions considered sex trafficing? What about using any dating/sex app? Aren't you paying someone to link you with a sexual partner also? Oh wait definition of sex trafficking?

"Sex trafficking is human trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation. It has been called a form of modern slavery because of the way victims are forced into sexual acts, usually non-consensually, in a form of sexual slavery."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking

4. It's a political trial due to him uploading IlhanOmarDna.com No one care about him being with those females for 1.5 years but on the day he was uploading some political dirt he got instantly raided by FBI. Coincidence rofl?
5. If age of consent is to be updated then make it absolutely non debate proof. Two 16 and 17 is okay but 17 and 35 is not, what about 26 guy and a 73 woman is that considered gold digging form of prostitution also? Make up your minds. It's either legal or it's not so stfu opinions, facts don't care about your feelings.

What it really boils down to is young gold diggers use a horny rich 30 year old who is made into a political target by the leftist swamp demons as a pedo

This post was edited by addone on Jan 29 2022 04:41pm
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