Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 10:50pm)

Interesting. Let's take that statement from a math standpoint:

2+2=4

4=2+2

Seems, based on your words, my summary was correct. Or would you like to clarify?

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 09:45pm)

So your argument is that because of government, there are no property rights, therefore, capitalism is at fault, when the very nature of capitalism is that those who own the capital, control the capital?

Sounds like you're arguing that America is NOT capitalist, but instead Socialist, and all of your talk against capitalism is meaningless. Did I miss something, or are you pulling a big stupid?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 23 2021 10:51pm)

I couldn't argue against you any better than you just did. Good job.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 23 Nov 2021 19:51)

I couldn't argue against you any better than you just did. Good job.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 09:57pm)

So, all of your argument against America because it's "Capitalist" is just nonsense, because as it turns out, and as folk like me have been shouting for years, "America is not Capitalist" is true?

It's slim vindication, but I'll take it. Now, the question is, what makes you believe that an overreaching government controlling your life is better than you controlling your own life?

We're now into the little l libertarian AKA tucker argument, which allows for local governance and a very cut down "overreaching national authority" and your take of complete government ownership of all of life.

Because let's not mince words, Thor: You claim not to be communist, but some mythical method of socialist where "the workers own everything". Nope, the workers never own everything. Somebody has to be in charge, and they end up owning everything.

In fact, I could get into the idea of "As a worker, I have x% share of the company" and the fact that the shelf stocker at the grocery store doesn't know anything about anything, and if everyone else in the store disappears, the store fails, but the founder of the store actually started and stocked and sold and did it all, and are the reason the store exists. They put everything they had into it's success, and succeeded to the point where they could hire people to help make it even more successful. The "stake" the "worker" has in that store? Is called their paycheck. If they don't feel they earn enough? They can negotiate for more or quite. They are a function of the profit they bring in. Why should they have any say on the direction of that store?

It's all about undeserved control with you communist types. Why should you control anything you did not build?

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 23 2021 10:57pm)

So, all of your argument against America because it's "Capitalist" is just nonsense, because as it turns out, and as folk like me have been shouting for years, "America is not Capitalist" is true?

It's slim vindication, but I'll take it. Now, the question is, what makes you believe that an overreaching government controlling your life is better than you controlling your own life?

We're now into the little l libertarian AKA tucker argument, which allows for local governance and a very cut down "overreaching national authority" and your take of complete government ownership of all of life.

Because let's not mince words, Thor: You claim not to be communist, but some mythical method of socialist where "the workers own everything". Nope, the workers never own everything. Somebody has to be in charge, and they end up owning everything.

In fact, I could get into the idea of "As a worker, I have x% share of the company" and the fact that the shelf stocker at the grocery store doesn't know anything about anything, and if everyone else in the store disappears, the store fails, but the founder of the store actually started and stocked and sold and did it all, and are the reason the store exists. They put everything they had into it's success, and succeeded to the point where they could hire people to help make it even more successful. The "stake" the "worker" has in that store? Is called their paycheck. If they don't feel they earn enough? They can negotiate for more or quit. They are a function of the profit they bring in. Why should they have any say on the direction of that store?

It's all about undeserved control with you communist types. Why should you control anything you did not build?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 23 2021 07:51pm)

I couldn't argue against you any better than you just did. Good job.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 23 2021 10:59pm)

Hard to believe you read my posts if this is what you got out of it. Really, keep going. You're doing my job for me.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 23 Nov 2021 19:59)

Hard to believe you read my posts if this is what you got out of it. Really, keep going. You're doing my job for me.

Quote (Nibthebarb @ Nov 23 2021 11:00pm)

Seems like it went over your head so you're just playing troll so you don't have to expose your low IQ.

To be expected for kid touchers/murderers.