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Nov 13 2021 04:59am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Nov 13 2021 02:07am)
There is a great video out there from these people that went to Cuba to document how terrible it is.



How terrible what is?
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This is impossible and would/will never happen. There will always be a centralized authority body that will take up what ever space it's allowed, take what it wants, and give back what it deems necessary to maintain itself.



You just described capitalism.
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Nov 13 2021 05:13am
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Nov 13 2021 05:59am)
How terrible what is?



Cuba
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Nov 13 2021 05:23am
Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Nov 13 2021 11:06am)
You basically said what he said but shorter.


That's what tl;dr means. :D

My point is that it's an inherently biased narrative.
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Nov 13 2021 05:31am
Quote (Leevee @ Nov 13 2021 06:23am)
That's what tl;dr means. :D

My point is that it's an inherently biased narrative.



Oh my bad. I thought tldr generally means I am dismissing what you are saying.
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Quote (Leevee @ Nov 13 2021 03:51am)
tl;dr: the deaths under capitalism are circumstantial, but the deaths under communism are due to communism.

Communism is a terrible system, but this line of thinking of yours is nothing short of cognitive dissonance.


I am saying that the accusations Thor levies against capitalism are actually against mercantilism, but that it's moot either way, because mercantilism is not responsible for what we're talking about any more than Saddam gassing the Kurds is an indictment of socialism.

Murdering foreigners and conquering new lands was well in vogue before capitalism. It predates it by thousands of years. It's dependent on Thor to demonstrate that this is a function of capitalism, and not a function of the human race. It's impossible to do when communist nations also regularly engage in foreign conquest (e.g. China in Vietnam). We're less than two centuries into the founding of communism, and the death toll is in the tens of millions. Economic illiteracy paired with central control is a hell of a drug.
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I am saying that the accusations Thor levies against capitalism are actually against mercantilism, but that it's moot either way, because mercantilism is not responsible for what we're talking about any more than Saddam gassing the Kurds is an indictment of socialism.

Murdering foreigners and conquering new lands was well in vogue before capitalism. It predates it by thousands of years. It's dependent on Thor to demonstrate that this is a function of capitalism, and not a function of the human race. It's impossible to do when communist nations also regularly engage in foreign conquest (e.g. China in Vietnam). We're less than two centuries into the founding of communism, and the death toll is in the tens of millions. Economic illiteracy paired with central control is a hell of a drug.


:rofl:

Wow, I couldn't have typed a more perfect example of dishonest goal post moving in the communism vs capitalism debate than you just did. When it's capitalism it's "part of the human race", when it's communism it's "a direct result of communist policies", as though famines, mismanagement, and corruption haven't also happened throughout all of human history.

Bravo, you are literally a cariacature.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Nov 13 2021 10:19pm
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Nov 13 2021 10:17pm
Quote (iWorshiptheBlahaj @ Oct 24 2021 04:02pm)
capitalism
socialism
communism

alot of users use these words here but id like to see what they mean to each of you


1 you pay to eat ass
2 government subsidies to eat ass
3 they say there's ass to eat but there isn't
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My quality of life is a direct result of the positive aspects of capitalism. I have made responsible decisions which have led to my family living comfortably within our means.

Most people’s beef is that they actually have to hold themselves accountable to make a good life for themselves.
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My quality of life is a direct result of the positive aspects of capitalism. I have made responsible decisions which have led to my family living comfortably within our means.

Most people’s beef is that they actually have to hold themselves accountable to make a good life for themselves.


ah that's the real beef. People that don't like that there's isn't much of a safety net within capitalist governments just don't hold themselves accountable.
IE lazy..
got it.

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