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Sep 5 2021 04:01pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 5 2021 05:55pm)
Alright.

No, I will not trust something from webforums just for being from a webforum. I will trust something when I can reasonably ascertain that it came from an average person. But since webforums are the only places existing where the average person can have a voice, then yes, you can say that I tend to trust sources from webforums.


But that is not looking at things like a scientist. You're inserting "gut feeling" into the process.

A true scientist looks at problems as evidence based, and without inserted feelings of what they "think" should be.

Just because something doesn't make sense doesn't make it untrue.
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Sep 5 2021 04:02pm
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You attribute the j's to evil therefore since they occupy the top spaces in many domains, you immediately assume that the source is corrupted and has an ulterior motive .


You realize that nowhere in this thread, not even once, did I mention "J's", right?
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But that is not looking at things like a scientist. You're inserting "gut feeling" into the process.

A true scientist looks at problems as evidence based, and without inserted feelings of what they "think" should be.

Just because something doesn't make sense doesn't make it untrue.


Except we are not looking at a problem that is scientific in nature. The issue we are dealing with is political in nature. It involves people. And when people are involved like that, then relying on "gut feelings" is sometimes called for.

Can you truly ascertain that someone holding a gun at you is trying to harm you? No you can't. But that doesn't mean you can't think that he is a threat to you.
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Sep 5 2021 04:11pm
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I believe JessiWan is a woman, and I assume goes by 'she'.


Have you been going through my posting history?
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Sep 5 2021 04:16pm
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Except we are not looking at a problem that is scientific in nature. The issue we are dealing with is political in nature. It involves people. And when people are involved like that, then relying on "gut feelings" is sometimes called for.

Can you truly ascertain that someone holding a gun at you is trying to harm you? No you can't. But that doesn't mean you can't think that he is a threat to you.



The thing is though, at its core, COVID and vaccines are scientific in nature. I know you stated this is 90% political for you and 10% science, and I know you're not alone in your stance. But the problem is just that: a science problem is a political problem. And as you said, this is because it involves people.

Gut feeling counts for something, so I get that. But relying purely on "gut feeling" and ignoring objective data available by multiple reputable sources, in my opinion, is akin to burying your head in the sand. What does it take for something to overcome your gut feeling?
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Sep 5 2021 04:18pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 5 2021 05:01pm)
If you are still arguing science with me, it tells me that you can't read. I have stated multiple times that this thread is 90% political and only 10% science.

But apparently you feel qualified to lecture me on "rethinking worldview". EL OH EL.


When your argument relies on a factual statement, then that factual statement is open to attack to discredit your argument.

That's just like, human conversation 101. If you don't at least understand that you're going to keep making yourself look like an idiot.

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Except we are not looking at a problem that is scientific in nature


Explains why you fall for conspiracy crap. These are fundamentally scientific questions.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Sep 5 2021 04:19pm
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Sep 5 2021 04:22pm
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You realize that nowhere in this thread, not even once, did I mention "J's", right?


Why can't you answer the infertility question in public then ?
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Sep 5 2021 04:24pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 5 2021 05:59pm)
I work at a major medical school with a bunch of labs that are actively researching Covid and physicians who are leaders in their field treating Covid. I get my information about vaccine safety directly from infectious disease experts and epidemiologists.

I get virtually none of my information from non-primary sources, and even less from people who aren't experts in a field directly related to what they are talking about.


That explains a lot of your flawed mindset, thanks for sharing.
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Sep 5 2021 04:25pm
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When your argument relies on a factual statement, then that factual statement is open to attack to discredit your argument.


This is further proof you can't read. I have already stated that the main thrust of this thread is NOT, "covid vaccines might cause ___". Rather, the main thrust is, don't trust your government blindly.

Lol, you still think my aim is to try and prove that vaccines cause infertility. Like, literally, you are incapable of comprehension.

When I was in uni, a lot of science students were stupid like this. They might understand their lectures and do well in labs and on tests, but they couldn't argue for shit.

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That's just like, human conversation 101. If you don't at least understand that you're going to keep making yourself look like an idiot.


LOL! You of all people to bust out "conversation 101"???? EL OH EL. You are literally incapable of comprehending this sentence, "my thread is 90% political and only 10% science". Despite the fact it's been repeated for at least 6, 7 times.

Seriously, you might be well-versed in science but your English comprehension is absolutely abysmal.

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Sep 5 2021 04:26pm
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Why can't you answer the infertility question in public then ?


Oh, because I don't want to answer a question in public, that means I am an anti-semite?

Why did you bring up the Js? Do you love them very much or what?
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