Did we become friends years ago and I neglected to acknowledge it?

With this line of reasoning, you would also have to call for racial and financial quotas among the professors and tutors...





The problem diagnosis by the GOP is spot on, academia has developed a dangerously left-skewed worldview, colleges have turned into indoctrination factories and they are becoming increasingly narrow-minded and ideologically intolerant.
This bill, however, offers a completely misguided, ineffective, dangerous, intolerant and contradictory pseudo-solution to this problem. The battle of ideas has to be won, or fought to a draw, by ideas rather than by bluntly pressuring and silencing the other side.

If the roles were reversed, if it was liberals suggesting to keep lists of the political/ideological affiliation of the student and teaching body, conservatives would freak the fuck out, and rightfully so. You wil not defeat intolerance or fascism by promoting intolerance or fascist tactics.

That already happens regularly. Last year a student org at my university was collecting signatures to get more black professors into the school of pharmacy. One black guy who was a MD/MBA who i'm familiar with raised a question with one of the provisions which basically said that race supersedes qualifications in assessment of hiring. He didn't agree with it, wanted it changed, was basically told to just sign the petition and put his concern on the sheet and they'll look at it (basically just sign the petition but no one really cares about your concern because it damages what we're trying to do).

To me you're making a pretty big logical leap in thinking that asking students how they feel about the things they are being taught from an ideological diversity perspective the same as making lists and what not. If you answer i'm pro lgbbq you think anyone is going to go after you or try anything? I doubt even professors would get fired over their political beliefs.

This is more of a macro look at a school and say hey we have 60% of students who learn conservative but only 30% of professors lean conservatives, we have to do a better job of being representative.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jun 25 2021 08:53am

ahh yes forced demographic equality between population and those that teach them. how could that possibly go wrong? of course decided by a 3rd party with implicit bias.

and fails utterly in real time, funding gets put on hold until you shift your professors to a more equivalent representation?

also the survey is optional, so professors are almost certainly going to boycott this to the point the data collected is useless.

what we have here is akin to an optional survey to respond how many guns and ammo you have.

All of my guns and ammo were lost.

crazy mine as well. now all i have is a pellet gun for self defense.

This has been happening for quiet awhile in politics, corporations, etc. We need more gay, black, women, fill in the blank. Should I be surprised you all of the sudden have an issue with it when it comes to asking for diversity by conservatives?

I don't know what the repercussions are, they are purposefully vague, I highly doubt colleges will overnight lose funding because of mismatches.

The focus to me is much more on the student rather than the professor. I really don't see the issue with having a voluntary survey in which we basically see how students feel about what their taught. Like why are certain groups threatened by others expressing their opinions?

so you think that there's a vast conspiracy among liberal academia, be it legitimately a conspiracy or more realistically a convergence of political ideology moving in the same direction, that can prey on the still undeveloped minds of adolescent recently graduated high schoolers.

and then you think that taking data from people all in a conspiracy, again be if formal or informal, and minds so underdeveloped they're poisoned by critical race theory, will be reliable.

see guns/ammo survey comparison again and think. think hard. should only take a few seconds to blink on the lightbulb if u understand surveys and polling biases at all.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 25 2021 09:05am

Conspiracy? Idk but having two bachelors and a masters I've spent enough time at a college to see the very clear political bias.

A lot of social science classes have qualitative grading assignments. If you don't regurgitate and reflect basically what they taught you is the 'correct' reasoning for something in the world being the way it is, you won't get a good grade, quiet simple so conforming to a specific ideology/framework is literally mandated through the stick/carrot of grading.

Vast majority of surveys produce unideal results. Why feel threatened by this then? Whatever students can raise whatever concerns, schools/the public will have visibility. Like why is this such a big deal?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jun 25 2021 09:16am

conspiracy =/= untrue. it basically means coordinated effort of more than 1 person.

i dont feel threatened, i am laughing at the waste to tax payer money this ineffectual survey will result in.

when i was in college Scott Walker came out against teacher's unions and most of my pot smoking liberal hippy profs cancelled 2 weeks of classes to go an sit in the capital to protest.

the idea that liberal professors will take this survey is absurd, the idea that a majority of underdeveloped kids just trying to find someone to buy them beer will approach it realistically is absurd, and by the end of college most end up liberal enough that the data wouldnt produce results the lawmakers proport it would in any case. look at exit polling of college campuses, they're liberal bastions.

liberals are afraid of guns, conservatives are afraid of campus indoctrination, in reality both are issues, and a survey with a bipartisan board to adjust things for them is a silly approach. voluntary survey based legal action is a joke.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 25 2021 09:21am