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Jun 9 2021 12:49pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 9 2021 01:19pm)
the logistics of storage, let alone having other teachers review all of the material isnt feasible. additionally depending on the level your curriculum must remain elastic to meet the needs of that specific class.

the idea of scab teachers to replace strike teachers being bussed into a district by a competing union is honestly something i'd expect Cam to say lol. its honestly not at all realistic.

when teachers get into trouble and have curriculum reviews they're a massive issue and time consuming as hell, doing it to all teachers would require many more employees. and it brings in the issue of teachers not being able to cover common core standards already in a given year.


I'm just spitballing. Cam definitely wouldn't be saying this because he won't take his ideas to the logical conclusion. I'm arguing from the ideal "free market solves everything herp derp" perspective here, not a totally practical one.

I don't think other teachers would review all of the cirriculum every year, but it should be available in some form to vet. The logistics of storage wouldn't be that hard. Hard drive space is pretty cheap after all. Time for our schools to get with the times!

Ideally bussing in another union's teachers would be a rarity since the promise of available replacements would be enough to keep a strike from happening in all but the most dire circumstances.

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I'm just spitballing. Cam definitely wouldn't be saying this because he won't take his ideas to the logical conclusion. I'm arguing from the ideal "free market solves everything herp derp" perspective here, not a totally practical one.

I don't think other teachers would review all of the cirriculum every year, but it should be available in some form to vet. The logistics of storage wouldn't be that hard. Hard drive space is pretty cheap after all. Time for our schools to get with the times!

Ideally bussing in another union's teachers would be a rarity since the promise of available replacements would be enough to keep a strike from happening in all but the most dire circumstances.


free market forces and public monopolies on education can never and will never mix. they're as infeasible in reality as the "pay our teachers like doctors" narrative.

the simple reality is when we break down 2 topics, 1) are teachers compensated enough for the work they do, and 2) will paying teachers more be the best way to improve education, we find paying teachers more is a very inefficient way to improve education compared to other alternatives. more aides, more resources, more stringent hiring practices, more incentives for grants to repay education loans, more after school programs, more mentors, etc. All far better ways. taking a teacher from 35k to 40k will largely result in the same mediocre applicant pools seeking jobs with too little help, too little oversight into their performance, etc. Teaching is a passion, people with aptitudes for it that are overqualified for it intellectually like my wife will continue to teach and eventually work their way into administration, and others who are mediocre will seek it out because its a fairly cushy job with a lot of security and insane benefits.

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Quote (CyrusTheGreat @ Jun 10 2021 03:10am)
Understood - but, I would have to slightly push back and say visiting isn't the same as living permanently.

I don't know Australian law, but is it not allowed to move to a new location if you can't find opportunities where you are? You're keeping a roof over your head now it seems, so why wouldn't that be possible in a different location closer to better jobs?

Also - lastly, what are your true, honest beliefs? I don't think we've ever delved into that in any detail. It seems we can deduce you don't like Capitalism (as is your right of freedom of expression), but then it begs the question what you think is ideal in full (and a universal income isn't the answer - especially in America - we've seen the result even when we expand Welfare / Unemployment - add exponents now with an unlimited, never-ending cash flow earned or not)? The disabled also get a universal base income as well, which I agree with, as social safety nets have their place in such cases as these where someone is unable to work/contribute due to no fault of their own. Same with the retired.

I'll prob have to get back to you later when you respond so I am not ignoring ya - just gotta get back to work.


Capitalism is exploitation of the masses for the benefit of the few.
I believe in supporting the masses with the resources we give the few, nationalise resources, negative income tax capped at 30% corporate profit tax capped at 25% and close the loop holes.
This would eliminate poverty and enable upward mobility for pretty much anyone with the drive to achieve more whilst drastically reducing billionaires.
Every billionaire is a failure of society.
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"no one wants to work these days"

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Mcdonalds in my area starting wage is like 13 an hour and considering the cost of living because my city is a heroin addicted dump, that's like making 20-25 in a bigger city. But that assumes they give you 40 hours.

A lot of night shift warehouse/production jobs are basically available if people are willing to work and can be at 18+ to 25-30.

I need to get my shit together and stop being middle level management on night shift and go back to school.
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Jun 10 2021 09:38am
Quote (AspenSniper @ Jun 9 2021 07:30pm)
"no one wants to work these days"

https://i.imgur.com/zvSgNaj.jpg


just wait until amazon unveils the backfed shelves in new stores that are automatically restocking items and have an automated dump feature for again automated shelf life of products into automated robot bins that can also work with automated shop bots to facilitate online pick up orders handing items off to an automated bagger then to a drop off auto cart that will pull up to your back bumper.

amazon's p/e ratio is gonna look like a steal in 10 years. ive been saying its a massively underpriced stock since the second they bought whole foods.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 10 2021 11:38am)
just wait until amazon unveils the backfed shelves in new stores that are automatically restocking items and have an automated dump feature for again automated shelf life of products into automated robot bins that can also work with automated shop bots to facilitate online pick up orders handing items off to an automated bagger then to a drop off auto cart that will pull up to your back bumper.

amazon's p/e ratio is gonna look like a steal in 10 years. ive been saying its a massively underpriced stock since the second they bought whole foods.


Kroger is about to roll out a fair amount of automated shopping stores.

Gonna be a wild ride.
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Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Jun 10 2021 10:44am)
Kroger is about to roll out a fair amount of automated shopping stores.

Gonna be a wild ride.


"what u think u can just replace bartenders, bodega workers, and servers!" army of new dorkers behind AOC

Amazon/Kroger/Mcdonalds/Walmart/etc "heheh profits go brrrrrrrrr"
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 9 2021 06:07pm)
Capitalism is exploitation of the masses for the benefit of the few.
I believe in supporting the masses with the resources we give the few, nationalise resources, negative income tax capped at 30% corporate profit tax capped at 25% and close the loop holes.
This would eliminate poverty and enable upward mobility for pretty much anyone with the drive to achieve more whilst drastically reducing billionaires.
Every billionaire is a failure of society.


Hey sorry - work has been a nightmare the last 2 days:

Here's what I would say to that:

Capitalism is exploitation of the masses for the benefit of the few.
- I can't see how that's true though. I am a member of a Capitalist society and I am paid well for what I contribute. Do you believe merits, skills and work ethic shouldn't play at all into what one is paid?

I believe in supporting the masses with the resources we give the few, nationalise resources, negative income tax capped at 30% corporate profit tax capped at 25% and close the loop holes.
- I can't speak on tax law. Don't know enough about it. However, when taking percentages out and looking at the dollar (it's common to use percentages because it makes the numbers look worse), the top 1% of people in dollar-to-dollar value pay the majority of all taxes in the country.
- So you believe giving someone who has spent their entire life as an "employee" of welfare deserves more for free?

This would eliminate poverty and enable upward mobility for pretty much anyone with the drive to achieve more whilst drastically reducing billionaires.
- Can't agree - it's not just people making poverty wages that are broke. There are many six-figure earners who struggle to pay bills as well because they, too, live outside their means due to envy of their neighbor who has just a little more.
- I have seen lower than rock bottom and lived a life where I only qualified for jobs that barely paid minimum wage. I earn exponents of that now on self-merit and hard work once I finally got my "big break" making $23k a year (lol). That was simply a stepping stone. to the future, though
- Upward mobility is only really available in a Capitalist society honestly. There's no government controlling what you make or taking from one to give to those who a small group of people deemed "more deserving" regardless of contribution. That's not conducive to upward mobility.
- You want poverty to end in full? Teach people to stop being envious of what the guy next door has. Just because you didn't make massive riches in life doesn't mean your neighbor didn't do something to earn it (i.e. a groundbreaking invention which is very common).

Every billionaire is a failure of society.
- That i'd have to respond asking why? Not enough detail.

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Jun 10 2021 02:11pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 9 2021 06:07pm)
Capitalism is exploitation of the masses for the benefit of the few.


Im not sold on the idea of arrangements between individuals exchanging their labour for monetary compensation as exploitation.
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