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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 19 2021 06:03am)
Yes, need you to google it. Because when I google it, what I find is that polling stations were removed all over the place. A polling station near where I used to live, which is 90% Hispanic, was removed. In a blue state in a blue city with a blue SoS with a blue governor with a blue mayor.

Not all the polling stations that were removed were in minority areas, and indeed, the most common pattern I found regarding the removal of polling stations was that they were replaced with dropboxes, which is something most Republicans opposed and oppose, as chain of custody is lost.

On the flipside, we're all mailed out ballots. At a polling station, you take your ballot (in it's signed envelope, secrecy envelope inside that) to a person, present your ID, they verify signature on the spot, and put it in a lockbox. With the dropboxes? Anybody can do anything. They aren't guarded or watched, and no ID verification is required.

But, feel free to expand.


Then you see what you want to see.

https://newrepublic.com/article/151966/gops-sneakiest-voter-suppression-tactic
https://www.governing.com/archive/sl-polling-place-close-ahead-of-november-elections-black-voters.html

When the VRA was struck down, the Republican assault on polling stations went wild.
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So, I can quote a blue state with a blue governor and blue secretary of state, and you quote a red. I talk about dozens of polling locations removed, 2020 election no less, many in minority areas. You point to red from a 2018 midterm, in a much larger area. Outstanding!

So, I've pointed to facts based on the events. You point to opinion articles immediately concluding racism. Yet the articles seem to indicate not that polling places were made unavailable. Instead that Georgia hired a consultant to help cut costs, and some polling was closed. It alleges that not allowing early voting (subject to vote manipulation) was also racist. It indicates that based on tight county budgets (in midterms no less), that counties all over the nation were shutting down polling and centralizing to cater to the maximum number of population, and adds that absentee voting would still be available for those who couldn't make it to a polling location. Which part of this is racist, exactly? Which is "vote suppression"? Seems to me, given the absolute trust we're expected to have with mail-in ballots, the fact that absentee ballots were available to all Georgia voters, as well as the rest who centralized polling locations, there's no racism, aye? It's also interesting that no claims were made about hardships on white voters. "It's so hard for minorities to vote" okay? What about white voters? Having to trek 10 miles to a polling location helps them or makes them want to stand in lines? Seems to me, it's a further move to push towards normalizing mail-in.

Republicans LIKE polling locations. And they like them to be relatively close. And believe it or not, republicans live in poor communities too. If anything, the push away from easy access in-person polling is far more harmful to republicans than to Democrats. It seems to me, Democrats pushed an agenda, got it through, then blamed it on Republicans as "racist".

Edit: Or perhaps you simply don't understand how absentee ballots work. You tend to receive them a month or so in advance. You can fill them out and mail them back that day. "Early voting" only exists at the polls. They compare your signature with that on file. And apparently the Georgia elections had a less than 2% signature mismatch rate. Seems like a better system than most states received this year, to be honest. wtf are you crying racist for? This is what Dems specifically pushed to have for 2020.

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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 19 2021 06:07am)
France and Germany are both majority white by a large margin. We're talking between 88 and 92%. They have entire towns and cities with no non-white resident (or they did, that may no longer be a thing).

Their largest secondary population, in both cases, is Arab (asian brown). They're so "diverse and enlightened" that they both literally have no minority groups to speak of, while pointing furiously at the US, where "white" is only a few years away from becoming a co-majority with "brown".

Most Americans tend to think, "Hey, we're doing it right! The melting pot works! We CAN really live together!" Meanwhile pasty white shitholes like France and Germany limp over from their latest truck attack, point, and say, "YOU'RE RACIST AND ONLY SUPPORT WHITE PEOPLE!"

It's pathetic. Dunno why you'd engage with either one at any serious level.


This post alone... holy shit. How do you expect people to take you seriously?
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Quote (Leevee @ Feb 19 2021 01:16pm)
This post alone... holy shit. How do you expect people to take you seriously?


while im not a fragile white i do agree with the general sentiment that some Europeans look down from unicultural ivory tower communities upon the US which is a far more multicultural landscape. and blame some racial tensions on racism, rather than the known factor of a general level of friction that exists in any environment where their is cultural clash, regardless of race. cultural clashes in the melting pot of the US are part of what makes us so violent and part of what makes us an interesting place to live and visit. u cant have one without the other from an anthropological viewpoint, its as human as anything.

im just not afraid of my whiteness being under attack.

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while im not a fragile white i do agree with hte general sentiment that many Europeans look down from unicultural ivory tower communities upon the US which is a far more multicultural landscape. and blame racial tensions on racism, rather than the known factor of a general level of friction that exists in any environment where their is cultural clash, regardless of race. cultural clashes in the melting pot of the US are part of what makes us so violent and part of what makes us an interesting place to live and visit. u cant have one without the other from an anthropological viewpoint, its as human as anything.

im just not afraid of my whiteness being under attack.


Kind of?

I kind of agree, but just calling it "social tensions" does a lot to minimize that the situation we find ourselves in wasn't inevitable. There was a time when Irish people, for example, were seen as a minority that would never assimilate to white American ways of life. Now we see that as ridiculous, but ultimately the racial lines we draw when saying "racial tension is inevitable" are arbitrary. Ultimately the lines being kept in place is an active process, not a passive result of social tendencies.

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Kind of?

I kind of agree, but just calling it "social tensions" does a lot to minimize that the situation we find ourselves in wasn't inevitable. There was a time when Irish people, for example, were seen as a minority that would never assimilate to white American ways of life. Now we see that as ridiculous, but ultimately the racial lines we draw when saying "racial tension is inevitable" are arbitrary. Ultimately the lines being kept in place is an active process, not a passive result of social tendencies.


its more the argument that

violence in america = racism + cultural clash

rather than

violence in america = racism

as well as Europeans coming from a white culture where racist ideologies dont have an opportunity to present themselves as much. there are of course examples of black or arab people in soccer matches taking insane amounts of racism. blacks in the UK seem to get racism from people in the press even. in short there may be far more racists around than the lack of racist events suggest. and by proxy that racism is fairly standard in humans, rather than noteworthy and worthy of scorn.

that isnt to suggest we should ignore or excuse it, there are many human factors we should strive to fix as we grow as a species. its an elitist attitude that i dont like. it has the tone of a kid born rich laughing at people who cant make ends meet.
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Feb 19 2021 01:39pm
Quote (Leevee @ Feb 19 2021 02:16pm)
This post alone... holy shit. How do you expect people to take you seriously?


That was one of his more intelligible posts.

The largest foreign ethnic groups in European nations are often other Europeans. America has and is dealing with racial and ethnic tension that Europeans can only dream of.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 19 2021 08:21pm)
while im not a fragile white i do agree with the general sentiment that some Europeans look down from unicultural ivory tower communities upon the US which is a far more multicultural landscape. and blame some racial tensions on racism, rather than the known factor of a general level of friction that exists in any environment where their is cultural clash, regardless of race. cultural clashes in the melting pot of the US are part of what makes us so violent and part of what makes us an interesting place to live and visit. u cant have one without the other from an anthropological viewpoint, its as human as anything.

im just not afraid of my whiteness being under attack.


Agree with the top part but not with bolded part, whiteness under attack maybe not literally but something scary is definitely happening, the absurd woke ideas that are trying to equalize by knocking down white accomplishments or statues or whatever, pushing white guilt rhetoric, and on the other hand the downplaying of black criminality and even celebrating black criminals like Floyd.

If politicians are truly interested in equality they should keep black youth out of gangs and the drugs scene for starters, no employer is willing to employ a tattooed gang banger meaning all those dudes are on a dead end road becoming potential Floyds.
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