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Feb 9 2021 10:11pm
You're a man of evidence. Show me evidence that it's "atomizing the droplets even further" by wearing a mask, because we have actual evidence including high speed footage and masks are superior to just covering your mouth in every way when it comes to droplets.[/QUOTE]

my stuff is for reasonable people. any reasonable person can understand what would happen to a droplet if its forced through smaller holes than it self. Its also proven with vape experiments. Which i have posted here n there it the "no mask" thread.

this go around I am going to prove you go against the science. In fact i am going to show that you are the magic people.
TheNEW ENGLAND JOURNALofMEDICINE
May 21, 2020
Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 EraMichael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N., and Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?articleTools=true

page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")

page 2 last paragraph
"Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care "
(talisman? in other words its a magical device)



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Feb 9 2021 11:39pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 8 2021 06:43pm)
Slowing the spread means hospitals don't get overwhelmed.

If the hospital ER and ICU beds are full and you get into a car accident, you're screwed. If your mother has a heart attack, she's screwed. By allowing it to just spread you end up dooming hundreds of thousands of people who need ICU care that is totally unrelated to Covid, in addition to all the deaths from Covid. Then you get into the fact that like 5% of people are having permanent injuries and it just gets worse.



You're a man of evidence. Show me evidence that it's "atomizing the droplets even further" by wearing a mask, because we have actual evidence including high speed footage and masks are superior to just covering your mouth in every way when it comes to droplets.


Quote (youngs1n @ Feb 8 2021 08:12pm)
This oughta be good. Seriously cant wait for the retards response with his evidence.


Doctor uses Vape Aerosols to show just how much masks don't work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkdTyZ9xd_g

virus are to small block bacterial, but not virus.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 9 2021 11:42pm
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Feb 10 2021 12:39am
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 9 2021 11:39pm)
Doctor uses Vape Aerosols to show just how much masks don't work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkdTyZ9xd_g

virus are to small block bacterial, but not virus.


Two things

First is that aerosols from vaping are smaller than the normal droplets we breathe out, and second is that even if it doesn't totally stop exhaling (which was never the claim anyway) it absolutely reduces the distance they travel from your mouth. I know you know that we aren't comparing these droplets to the size of individual viruses, and I know you know this because I've told you several times and linked you to scientific sources with explanations of how droplet born illness is different from airborne illness.

Regardless, what you posted does not support that masks are "atomizing droplets even further", so you're dodging the actual question.
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Feb 10 2021 12:48am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 9 2021 10:39pm)
Two things

First is that aerosols from vaping are smaller than the normal droplets we breathe out, and second is that even if it doesn't totally stop exhaling (which was never the claim anyway) it absolutely reduces the distance they travel from your mouth. I know you know that we aren't comparing these droplets to the size of individual viruses, and I know you know this because I've told you several times and linked you to scientific sources with explanations of how droplet born illness is different from airborne illness.

Regardless, what you posted does not support that masks are "atomizing droplets even further", so you're dodging the actual question.


you dont think droplets would break up when sucked or blown through smaller holes than the droplet it self? thats your own cognition problem. Like i have to say and remind people from time to time my stuff is for reasonable people.
clearly the link provided shows vapor easily goes right through a mask.
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Feb 10 2021 01:03am
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 10 2021 01:48am)
you dont think droplets would break up when sucked or blown through smaller holes than the droplet it self? thats your own cognition problem. Like i have to say and remind people from time to time my stuff is for reasonable people.
clearly the link provided shows vapor easily goes right through a mask.


One thing that is not being discussed is viral load. It has been shown in the research that if viral load is reduced, then the probability of individuals to become infected by Covid-19 is also reduced. Wearing a mask is one of many potential ways to reduce viral load.
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Feb 10 2021 01:38am
Quote (Cowaz @ Feb 9 2021 11:03pm)
One thing that is not being discussed is viral load. It has been shown in the research that if viral load is reduced, then the probability of individuals to become infected by Covid-19 is also reduced. Wearing a mask is one of many potential ways to reduce viral load.


the recorded data shows mask do not effect the spread of virus.
data i just posted
TheNEW ENGLAND JOURNALofMEDICINE
May 21, 2020
Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 EraMichael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N., and Erica S. Shenoy, M.D., Ph.D.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?articleTools=true

page 1 2nd paragragh
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")

page 2 last paragraph
"Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care "
(talisman? in other words its a magical device)

"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")
"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities of-fers little, if any, protection from infection."
("we know")

more data
the Scientific Method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7f7fb3RsSs

watch for fun?
"Experts Say" Masks Prevent The Spread Of Viruses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjJSYHdYQt8

people just seen to demand and refuse to know just how small a virus is

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Feb 10 2021 02:39am
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 10 2021 02:38am)


page 2 last paragraph
"Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care "
(talisman? in other words its a magical device)


a talisman is not always magical... it could be an object for good luck...like a rabbit foot, horse shoe, 4 leaf clover. so masks are the new lucky thing!
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Feb 10 2021 07:45am
Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 10 2021 12:39am)
Doctor uses Vape Aerosols to show just how much masks don't work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkdTyZ9xd_g

virus are to small block bacterial, but not virus.



That’s not evidence of your claim retard. Still waiting.

Wtf does that even have to do with anything remotely similar to droplets coming out of ones mouth?

Provide evidence of your claim retard, not deflecting to an irrelevant video.

We will continue to wait forever.
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Feb 10 2021 08:07am
Quote (Cowaz @ Feb 10 2021 12:39am)
a talisman is not always magical... it could be an object for good luck...like a rabbit foot, horse shoe, 4 leaf clover. so masks are the new lucky thing!


definition says "magic powers"
tal·is·man
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noun: talisman; plural noun: talismans

an object, typically an inscribed ring or stone, that is thought to have magic powers and to bring good luck.
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Feb 10 2021 08:08am
Quote (youngs1n @ Feb 10 2021 05:45am)
That’s not evidence of your claim retard. Still waiting.

Wtf does that even have to do with anything remotely similar to droplets coming out of ones mouth?

Provide evidence of your claim retard, not deflecting to an irrelevant video.

We will continue to wait forever.


if the vape goes right through a mask then the cootie goes right through the mask
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