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Jan 12 2021 08:08am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 12 2021 08:03am)
I doubt it. I'd have to look at the ingredients on a lot of things since soy is a really common filler but the only time I knowingly eat soy is when my wife gives me a bite of something she got with soy from a Korean place we go to.


Sounds like a nice lady. I now regret my pre-coffee shit posting
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Jan 12 2021 08:16am
Quote (Duckling @ Jan 12 2021 07:32am)
Didn’t know we were trying to diss each other here. All I see is left wing extremists justifying and planning for violence against conservatives and republicans. But let’s be honest, they won’t do anything, they have no courage, only rage


some try, some do. its just cute when you try. its nice to see you do something other than your "i have a job and none of you do, im the REAL adult here" schtick. not that you can last more than a few posts.

FYI the whole treating others like caricatures while acting like one yourself is cringey af, not that you'll listen. if u ever want posting coaching lmk, i can clear out the stuff that makes you sound like a neckbeard pretty quick i think.
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Jan 12 2021 08:40am
Quote (Skinned @ Jan 12 2021 02:59pm)
Happy wife happy life.


I get that, must be fun as hell for her.

lol males 2021

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Jan 12 2021 08:42am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Jan 11 2021 11:48pm)
Pretty sure Trump said something along the lines of "We're going to march down to the Capitol and peacefully protest." Maybe Rudy or his kids used "violent" rhetoric, but that can be dismissed and assumed not to be taken literally. The case to blame the President for the righteous Capitol protest just isn't very strong and would fall to pieces under scrutiny.


The president came out on election night and claimed, without evidence, the election was stolen. Him and his allies spent 2 months pushing that message, and it was clearly bullshit. They fought in courts across all the relevant states, and never won. They wouldn't even present many of the fraud claims in court because they were baseless. Trump and his allies tried to get state legislatures to appoint their own electors, overriding the will of millions of voters. He called the Georgian Secretary of State to lean on him to "find him 11,779 votes". He encouraged his followers to come to DC on Jan. 6th to protest a normal part of the democratic process, which is Congress counting the electoral votes. The states choose the president, not Congress, not the Vice President. He then leaned on his Vice President privately and publicly to reject the results.

His voters listened to him. They believed what he said. They thought the election was stolen. Why wouldn't they? They've trusted the guy the past 4 years. They don't accept the reality that he's a pathological liar and evil person. And if the election really was stolen in this broad conspiracy, it would be the most significant scandal in American history. It would warrant a proportional response, or perhaps something more. So they showed up, and Trump spoke to them. Here's some of what he said:

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"Our country has had enough," Trump told his supporters. "We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal."

The crowd later chanted: "Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!" Trump thanked them.

"We’re going to have to fight much harder, and Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. And if he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country because you’re sworn to uphold our constitution. Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy."

"We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women," Trump told his supporters shortly before the Capitol assault. "We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."


Subsequent reporting has laid out how Trump reacted when this insurrection happened. He didn't seem bothered by it. People were trying to get him on the phone to get a message to these insurrectionists to leave... and it took him hours to do it. The message began with the claim that the election was stolen.

So the idea that Trump using some half-hearted throwaway line about "protests being peaceful" absolves him of this is blatant horseshit.

There's a divide in this country. Some of us actually believe in democracy. We believe in holding leaders accountable for their behavior. We believe elections are valid, and they have consequences. The rest either support the insanity, or think of this as just another reality show episode, and don't seem to care all that much. I get it... people are numbed from the past 4 years. I'm not... I've made it a point not to be.
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Jan 12 2021 08:45am
Quote (fender @ Jan 12 2021 02:55pm)

you seem to be very proud of your virginity to announce it so publicly... good for you, i guess.


Hi there Adolf I saw you're over the moon with the current state of affairs, how absolutely wonderful and that at the very end of his 4 year run it's almost like a present and it makes the past 4 years a bit easier to bear for you eh

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Jan 12 2021 08:55am
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Hi there Adolf I saw you're over the moon with the current state of affairs, how absolutely wonderful and that at the very end of his 4 year run it's almost like a present and it makes the past 4 years a bit easier to bear for you eh

excuse me sir but he is goebbels IV not adolf. he does read adolf’s book “my struggle’ every day though
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Jan 12 2021 09:24am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 12 2021 06:42am)
The president came out on election night and claimed, without evidence, the election was stolen. Him and his allies spent 2 months pushing that message, and it was clearly bullshit. They fought in courts across all the relevant states, and never won. They wouldn't even present many of the fraud claims in court because they were baseless. Trump and his allies tried to get state legislatures to appoint their own electors, overriding the will of millions of voters. He called the Georgian Secretary of State to lean on him to "find him 11,779 votes". He encouraged his followers to come to DC on Jan. 6th to protest a normal part of the democratic process, which is Congress counting the electoral votes. The states choose the president, not Congress, not the Vice President. He then leaned on his Vice President privately and publicly to reject the results.

His voters listened to him. They believed what he said. They thought the election was stolen. Why wouldn't they? They've trusted the guy the past 4 years. They don't accept the reality that he's a pathological liar and evil person. And if the election really was stolen in this broad conspiracy, it would be the most significant scandal in American history. It would warrant a proportional response, or perhaps something more. So they showed up, and Trump spoke to them. Here's some of what he said:


In response to your part on Trump's words, saying things like "fight hard" and "be strong" is typical speech used in politics.

As far as vote fraud goes. I will die believing the presidential election of 2020 was rigged. No judge wants to touch the issue because it quickly becomes an issue of election interference. No evidence can be collected because the counties refuse to cooperate and all discussion of election fraud is banned from the net. The irregularities alone (bellwether counties being historically inaccurate, implausible numbers of urban turnout in some cities but not in demographically similar cities, a red wave down ticket, the late counted votes being overwhelmingly Biden and breaking pattern with the trend of vote results counted earlier) are enough for me to say it was setup.

Even without the claim of vote fraud, we have had a mass media running election interference which puts Russian Facebook ads to shame. A half decade of consistently negative press, an establishment out to damage through leaks, big tech literally blocking negative Biden coverage, literal state media (NPR) saying the Hunter Biden story was false and a distraction when it is now shown to be very pertinent.

Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Wall Street, CNN, NBC, CBS, China, Wall Street, international finance, academia, all came together for the purpose of destroying the Trump presidency and his chances for reelection. That is another facet of election fraud in my opinion. In a sane world, the companies would be forced to admit they made donations to the DNC and be heavily fined.

I'm all for Americans protesting the results, the whole thing stinks of fraud and the machinations of wealthy power brokers.
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Jan 12 2021 10:30am
Quote (excellence @ Jan 12 2021 03:55pm)
excuse me sir but he is goebbels IV not adolf. he does read adolf’s book “my struggle’ every day though


Doesn't surprise me, Adolf AKA Goebbels AKA Heinrich von Goebbels seems most happy when the world is on fire judging by his posts here



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Jan 12 2021 10:32am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 12 2021 08:08am)
Sounds like a nice lady. I now regret my pre-coffee shit posting


She's very nice. We're both excessively boring people. Covid has hardly changed our usual routine, except we don't go out to eat nearly as often.
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Jan 12 2021 10:50am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 12 2021 11:32am)
She's very nice. We're both excessively boring people. Covid has hardly changed our usual routine, except we don't go out to eat nearly as often.


Three cheers for your bourgeoisness.
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