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Nov 7 2020 03:09pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 7 2020 02:54pm)
This is not my point or what was said. I reiterated what was said and meant at length.



This is one of my points. Thank you for your support.

My position was not the average American who is uneducated on a topic should dictate policy or is knowledgeable, but rather that certain people can and do have important input and knowledge on certain topics, even if they don't have a medical degree.


Bold is demonstrably false with abundant video evidence. The media are partisan hacks without credibility. They regularly exaggerate and misrepresent to demonize and mock those not on the left/establishment.

I agree the masses have little to no understanding.


I don't believe that is what I said at all.
I explicitly stated that wasn't what I was saying.


Bold is false.
Again, democrats choosing to be pretend the science is on their side while shutting down debate is not being pro-science.

The editors of a magazine choosing to abuse their position and endorse a candidate under the guise of science does not dictate who is right or mean science is on their side.
Nor does it mean they are not partisans or that democrats do not have very anti-science positions and mantras.

TDS and social pressure is real. I have not denied that.
'Trump bad and some scientists don't like him' does not mean the democrats aren't just as anti-science if not more.

This is another appeal to authority instead of addressing the points.



“rather that certain people can and do have important input and knowledge on certain topics, even if they don't have a medical degree.“

You haven’t outlined a system for these qualified people to come through the ranks, without some type of degree. Are we supposed to be looking for some prodigy on YouTube?

Rest we can agree to disagree. AMA , scientific American, NEJM , all have strong track records for objective work. If you are labeling this as hackery, that’s one take I guess and think that’s more victim mentality than anything else. I don’t give trump the same pass and one side has been more clear about ignoring data than the other. I am not making excuses for Democrats saying they have done no wrong , as I have pointed out earlier in this thread the riots did nothing to help and were politicized. However one side has been abundantly worse.
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Nov 7 2020 03:15pm
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 7 2020 04:09pm)
“rather that certain people can and do have important input and knowledge on certain topics, even if they don't have a medical degree.“

You haven’t outlined a system for these qualified people to come through the ranks, without some type of degree. Are we supposed to be looking for some prodigy on YouTube?

Rest we can agree to disagree. AMA , scientific American, NEJM , all have strong track records for objective work. If you are labeling this as hackery, that’s one take I guess and think that’s more victim mentality than anything else. I don’t give trump the same pass and one side has been more clear about ignoring data than the other. I am not making excuses for Democrats saying they have done no wrong , as I have pointed out earlier in this thread the riots did nothing to help and were politicized. However one side has been abundantly worse.


I don't need a system. That was never my argument.
You seem to be having difficulty recounting what was said and identifying and responding to my actual positions.

Trying to leverage some editors endorsing biden over trump is not a good replacement.


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Nov 7 2020 03:17pm
Bazi is trying to have a data driven discussion about policy and sources of objective facts on which to base decisions.

Cam is trying to both prove himself right and cast doubt on the ability to ever know anything is right ever.
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Nov 7 2020 03:18pm
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Bazi is trying to have a data driven discussion about policy and sources of objective facts on which to base decisions.

Cam is trying to both prove himself right and cast doubt on the ability to ever know anything is right ever.


Inaccurate on both accounts.
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Nov 7 2020 03:19pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 7 2020 03:18pm)
Inaccurate on both accounts.


Still waiting on any example of you having a good conversation with literally anybody in the past 4 years.

Or any example of you ever admitting you were wrong.

Or any example where you made a meaningful criticism of Republicans in the last 12 years.
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Nov 7 2020 03:21pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 7 2020 04:19pm)
Still waiting on any example of you having a good conversation with literally anybody in the past 4 years.

Or any example of you ever admitting you were wrong.

Or any example where you made a meaningful criticism of Republicans in the last 12 years.


Yes we get it you are dishonest trash and don't like me. Old news.

I have criticized republicans countless times and you keep bringing up the same dishonest distraction because you don't like that I criticize democrats more.
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Nov 7 2020 03:22pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 7 2020 03:21pm)
Yes we get it you are dishonest trash and don't like me. Old news.

I have criticized republicans countless times and you keep bringing up the same dishonest distraction because you don't like that I criticize democrats more.


You've never given me examples when asked so I will keep asking
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Nov 7 2020 03:23pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 7 2020 09:08pm)
Biden is probably taking a nap while his handlers debate when Kamala should take over.



trump supporter detected :D
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Nov 7 2020 03:23pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 7 2020 04:22pm)
You've never given me examples when asked so I will keep asking


Factually inaccurate.
Just another pathetic attempt to take shots at me and derail the discussion.

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Nov 7 2020 03:24pm
Quote (vildmeddans @ Nov 7 2020 03:23pm)
trump supporter detected :D


He will swear up and down he isn't but he will defend Trump at every opportunity, virtually never criticize Republicans, and will always criticize democrats when given the opportunity
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