Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 25 2020 11:09am)
I would say the trend has actually been the opposite. Accountability and generally less racism in policing has been a trend for quite a while now. No it's not perfect, yes there's still cops that make mistakes or are racist but if we look at rates over time we were definitely trending towards the positive.
What really changed during the last 4-5 years in my opinion, is the framing of this discussion though. It's political opportunism fueled by media that's a conduit for those narratives being pushed. News outlets created national level week long stories about some black guy being shot. The narratives are constantly that he's the victim irregardless of some of the extenuating circumstances, for example Mike Brown manhandling the brown store owner and charging the cop. If the media was honest in the framing and not trying to push a politically advantageous spin i think vast majority of blacks would agree that robbing someone and then trying to fight a cop and getting killed is a natural and justified consequence, doesn't matter the race. Instead the narrative is gentle giant gunned down by racist cop and racist system in place protects the cop, which is utter bullshit.
I agree that it's trending in the right direction. However, the average person is just NOW being made aware of some of the corruption, unfair practices, and ugly history we have in this country. As Americans, we really need to hold our institutions to a higher standard.
I think it's naive to think that blacks give a shit what the media pushes. As a matter of fact, I'm sure most would argue that the media has ignored them for decades.
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 25 2020 11:10am)
The statistics dont bear that out. Unjustified police shootings are such a rarity that the BLM protesters still have to pad their complaints with the likes of Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. When cops have actually murdered someone, they're far more likely to be held accountable, to be arrested and stand trial and be convicted- than the average black man killing another black man. Most of which to unsolved and unaccounted for. With bodycams, liberal police chiefs in every major city pushing reforms, diversity training, etc, we've wound up in an era where white people are more likely to get shot in an encounter with police to a degree vastly disproportionate to violent crime rates. And yet black racial grievance against the police is the narrative, along by debunked agitprop.
Not to mention the full picture of the criminal justice system, where liberal DAs have created utterly insane revolving doors where black offenders walk free after their 87th or 113th arrest and get away with laundry lists of felonies unchecked. Pretty much every mugshot featured on the mplscrimewatch list is someone on their 20th+ crime now.
All those reforms, all those progressive policies, they didn't sate the mobs. The mob saw Frey order the police to stand down and let the 3rd precinct burn, and the mob responded by looting every store and burning them down too. They simply followed the path of least resistance
It's not just unjustified police shootings. It's any level of excessive force. It's any type of abuse of authority.
I find the bold hard to believe. Do you have data to support the claim that it's causal? Bodycams are necessary because they protect everyone and can be used to bolster justice. If a cop did the right thing, they can be exonerated. If the cop did the wrong thing, they can be disciplined appropriately. Either way, we win.
No one is saying this shit is easy. We clearly need MORE prisons to house people but we also need more effective rehabilitation to stop the revolving door you're talking about. Alas, I don't think there's going to be much traction on the issue because it's out of sight out of mind for most voters. That apathy is a substantial contributor to the rot I'm talking about.