It will be a factor. Who has the right to make medical decision for this kid will certainly play a role on whether or not this was an informed consent issue. Kids don't always get to make their own medical decisions the way adults do for obvious reasons.



He's doing none of that, you're just triggered.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 17 2020 10:35am

hot take: i give it 10 years before a child is removed from their parents, in the USA, for the parents refusing puberty blockers.

No, just calling out fake tears and concern thats all.

This is an informed consent issue. I ask who is guardian because its important. You are ignorant and don't understand that patents lose rights to kids if they don't do well and often incarcerated children have legal guardians that are lawyers or social workers and not families.

So if a court appointed guardian consented to non-evidenced based treatment of a behavioral disorder then it is way beyond even an informed consent issue and it becomes a systemic problem at that point, but there is no reason to discuss systemic problems in one area to someone who i know doesn't understand systemic problems in another area because that's the same level of abstraction.

hot take: depending on the medical literature at the time that won't necessarily be the incorrect thing to do

In some ways this is fundamentally about how boys are perceived in school. The elementary through high school model fits a large number of boys poorly, and we see this across the spectrum in terms of higher disciplinary rates, higher drop-out rates, lower grades, lower college attendance, etc. This case is emblematic of that. The first reaction to a disorderly male child seems to have been to pump him full of feminizing hormones. His being "too male", even before testing, was the ultimate problem that needed to be solved, even if it had to be accomplished through unethical / criminal means.

ill be interested to read literature about how children are smarter than adults and able to understand the long term effects of the decisions they make. that'll be a real doozie.

I didn't know kids could give themselves puberty blockers

if a parent refuses to get their child medical treatment for an injury its neglect and theyre either removed or the parents are charged if the kids dies.

we're heading towards a world where refusing puberty blockers for a child will be handled the same was as lighting some sage and saying a prayer for a broken arm.

And that's not necessarily a bad thing depending on the outcome data. Maybe it takes the suicide rate for that group down by 90%? It will depend on the results if it is justified or not.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 17 2020 11:24am

i wont even entertain that idea. suicide by trans people comes from family stress, an inability to express the gender they want to, and peer mockery. removing one of 3 factors, while also removing a child from the home and introducing a new stress factor, reducing suicide rate by 90%? we'd have to make a complete societal change in 10 years so children dont mock trans people, we know that's not happening.

but i can see LGBTQAdvocates.com releasing a "study" that says that.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 17 2020 11:28am