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Jul 6 2020 12:33pm
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How so?

You're assuming the context of the phrase All Lives Matter. I don't think people saying that are supporting police brutality or discounting a black life lost. But instead being inclusive to all races.


What do you mean "how so?" ? A protest is supposed to get attention. If it doesn't get attention then there's no reason to having the protest. A great way to get attention is to inconvenient people. If they were following around a specific group of people for several blocks and yelling at them, I would agree it's harassing. But approaching people with your message who walk past a protest isn't harassment in a meaningful sense.

I am not assuming the context. I have seen it. All Lives Matter specifically started as a response to black lives matter by people who were directly opposed to black lives matter. Look at Pence, he will not say Black Lives Matter, but will say All Lives Matter. If he really believed "ALM" then he wouldn't have an issue saying "BLM" because Black is included in All. The fact that he won't say "BLM" shows he is excluding them from "ALM" or else he wouldn't have an issue saying it.

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What do you mean "how so?" ? A protest is supposed to get attention. If it doesn't get attention then there's no reason to having the protest. A great way to get attention is to inconvenient people. If they were following around a specific group of people for several blocks and yelling at them, I would agree it's harassing. But approaching people with your message who walk past a protest isn't harassment in a meaningful sense.

I am not assuming the context. I have seen it. All Lives Matter specifically started as a response to black lives matter by people who were directly opposed to black lives matter. Look at Pence, he will not say Black Lives Matter, but will say All Lives Matter. If he really believed "ALM" then he wouldn't have an issue saying "BLM" because Black is included in All. The fact that he won't say "BLM" shows he is excluding them from "ALM" or else he wouldn't have an issue saying it.


I was referring "how so" to the second part.

People probably refuse to say BLM at this point because the movement is intertwined with violence at this stage and Marxism. Plus, the group has been pretty vocal on calling for the death of police officers for years.

Can't say most Govt officials would support that

The phrase BLM is really more of a political movement. And the phrase is a cheap sham at gaining the political group support versus addressing the message.

Esp since only 6% of their funds go to help black communities.

Plus the statistical data has tarnished the validity of the movements message as well.

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Quote (GLYC123 @ Jul 6 2020 02:13pm)
Wearing black clothes/face masks to conceal your identity.
Harassing citizens.
Chanting Black Power.

And once again you're using the notion that I'm defending one and not the other. I'm not. I don't support either of them either way. Lol

But hey it is their right for both parties so whatever


We get it, you don't like blacks doing it too.

But they're within their rights.

The whites have been having militias for a long time.

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Jul 6 2020 12:44pm
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We get it, you don't like blacks doing it too.

But they're within their rights.

The whites have been having militias for a long time.


Once again I never supported any of the groups. And I think the right wing militias are equally as dumb. Lol.

I understand the march with guns when it involves protesting the govt taking away 2A (which had people of all ethnicities) from citizens. But that's about it.

Feel free to try to find my post on here of me cheering for armed protestors of any group carrying rifles in other situations though.

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Once again I never supported any of the groups. And I think the right wing militias are equally as dumb. Lol.

I understand the march with guns when it involves taking away 2A (which had people of all ethnicities) But that's about it.

Feel free to try to find my post on here of me cheering for armed protestors of any group carrying rifles in other situations though.


I dont care what you support. What i support is irrelevant too. Their rights aren't based on yours and mines feelings. We have a bill of rights.

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I dont care what you support. What i support is irrelevant too. Their rights aren't based on your feelz.


And once again I never said they couldn't legally do it.
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Jul 6 2020 12:48pm
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And once again I never said they couldn't legally do it.


I'm glad they are. Rights should be exercised by everyone. Other people can receive them without taking them from others.

You can have a gun and assemble. Saying they shouldn't is saying you shouldn't have that right.

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I'm glad they are. Rights should be exercised by everyone. Other people can receive them without taking them from others.

You can have a gun and assemble. Saying they shouldn't is saying you shouldn't have that right.


Once again I never said you couldn't assemble or not have the right to have a gun (though carrying a rifle is asking for a dumb situation to arise). But at this point, long guns might be necessary since everyone has one now.

I said I don't approve of people harassing citizens. Trying to hide their identity while carrying long guns. And I said I don't support militias so there ya go.

I was having the same stance when Antifa started doing this last year or whatever


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Quote (GLYC123 @ Jul 6 2020 02:52pm)
Once again I never said you couldn't assemble or not have the right to have a gun (though carrying a rifle is asking for a dumb situation to arise). But at this point, long guns might be necessary since everyone has one now.

I said I don't approve of people harassing citizens. Trying to hide their identity while carrying long guns. And I said I don't support militias so there ya go.

I was having the same stance when Antifa started doing this last year or whatever


I know you would have the same stance with antifa but what about the Bundys?

No law says you can't wear a mask or conceal your identity. Are you supposed to let the enemy government know who you are? Lol. So they can ruin you?

Are they in an establishment that serves alcohol? That's the line.

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I know you would have the same stance with antifa but what about the Bundys?

No law says you can't wear a mask or conceal your identity. Are you supposed to let the enemy government know who you are? Lol. So they can ruin you?

Are they in an establishment that serves alcohol? That's the line.


I know nothing about the Bundy's or who they are.
Do you mean Boogaloos?

Enemy government. Lol. Sounds like something a communist would say.

Look all I'm saying is, all these groups going out with AR15s and talking shit to one another is a bad way to go.

It might be legal. But it has the potential for a lot of people to get killed.

(And they give intelligent gun owners a bad name)

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