a hand sized loops that tightens around your hand when you pull it and takes 10x longer to fashion than a simple knotted loop. and even loops themselves are rare for garage pulls.

my comparison was clearly for effect lol, its not an equivalent case. just playing on his concept.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 26 2020 09:38am

Whether it was intentional or not, a noose is simply not the most effective knot to use for that purpose. Plus, as Snipa already mentioned, it takes far more time to tie a noose than it does a bowline, which would be a much more effective and functional hand loop.

Wouldn't the FBI have decided to do something if the footage showed someone retieing the knot? NASCAR sounded pretty adamant on taking action over it. At minimum, banning that individual for life.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 26 2020 09:52am

Unless you know how to do it. These guys are top notch mechanics anyways, not random dudes.

Which is why most likely it's made to just look cool, by some guy who likes that kind of shit.

I don’t know how they are placed in the garages. I find it hard to believe that there’s some schedule and know who’s car is going to be in a garage a year ahead

im not talking about retying anything. we seem to be on different wave lengths



all im saying is some racist guy at NASCAR from the track could have said "heh, put bubba in stall 47." knowing that the garage pull was a noose. i find this to be the least likely of the potential outcomes. i think that an edge lord, racist or just edgy, tied the noose with no connection to Bubba. and that him being placed there was just a coincidence of cosmic proportions. i still think education around the noose and how its just generally a dumb thing to have laying around or to use it as a symbol being a bad idea in the current climate is at least a positive outcome. its not like there are any completely innocent uses for a noose, it's for hanging people. its not like the OK hand signal, which has a legitimate and obvious innocent purpose.

in any case, does no one inspect garages before drivers come in? i guess you could overlook a noose pull, but i doubt it happens again.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 26 2020 10:10am

You’re looking into this way too much. Most guys, espcially a guys guy, the kind who work on cars in shops, like these Nascar men, are going to think a noose looks a lot cooler as a garage pull down rope, than a simple loop. It’s as simple as that. Besides the fact that this was placed in said garbage months before it became Bubba’s garbage. I think it’s extremely less likely some racist concocted a scheme to hang a noose in a garage months in advance, then someone just thinking it looked cooler than a normal loop. The FBI also came to a similar conclusion.

It might be more functional in some aspect. Provides a more sturdy pull? I can't say. Never was a boy scout. Lol.

I couldn't tell you with 100% accuracy if that knot would legitimately function as a noose with tightening on itself or not. I wouldn't think it would if it was tied like that in the past in November 2019

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Jun 26 2020 10:19am

Knowing what a functional knot is for a given purpose is "looking into this way too much"? Even if it was just someone who thought it looked cooler, it's simply far less functional.

This isn't just some shit I'm spouting off. They literally teach knot-tying in Navy boot camp. Santara knows even more, as his regular duties aboard his ship involved working with ropes/lines a lot more than mine did.