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Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 12 2018 10:20am)
there is nothing to "prove", physics proves it. no one educated believes the official bullshit. not even the most stupid uneducated americans

it could almost be all solved by showing a certain plane on a certain pentagone .. but oh w-, they cant show what didnt happened.


Wait, wut? You believe that Truther crap?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 12 2018 06:05am)
but cheney, rove and rumsfeld could. weak argument, even though I also dont think that 9/11 was fabricated.


I'm not gonna put forth a lot of effort when he's baiting me. Snipa was right when he said:

Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 12 2018 07:10am)
i think it was just a joke he was using in place of "i dont think the administration planned it based on the facts ive seen". Keep in mind a big part of the conspiracy rests on "facts" from the documentary which have since been debunked. Take out the foundation and there's not much proof of anything, although one could potentially believe in the: bush worked with Al Queda, Bush knew it wqas coming but did nothing, or some combination of that.


Loose Change is what all these Truther clowns start with, and it's been debunked seven different ways from Sunday.

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I had no idea that Surfpunk and Santara were brothers.


I'm the younger, better looking brother.

Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 12 2018 10:20am)
there is nothing to "prove", physics proves it. no one educated believes the official bullshit. not even the most stupid uneducated americans

it could almost be all solved by showing a certain plane on a certain pentagone .. but oh w-, they cant show what didnt happened.


Wow, I missed this. You don't get to talk about education and "physics proving" a conspiracy, because you clearly don't understand physics if you're saying that it explains the towers' collapse.

This post was edited by Santara on Sep 12 2018 04:54pm
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Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 13 2018 03:30am)
Birthday: May 15 1990 (Male)
Location: Springfield,OH

what a surprise

keep showing how manipulated your whole country people are please.

where is the fucking plane hitting that pentagone bich


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Theres 2 d2jsp users who know how i look IRL, a french section moderator & some guy from eu pvp forum, both retired i suppose.


They both probably got eye cancer
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They both probably got eye cancer


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They both probably got eye cancer


simple but made me lol
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simple but made me lol


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Quote (Surfpunk @ Sep 12 2018 09:35pm)
Wait, wut? You believe that Truther crap?


Quote (Santara @ Sep 12 2018 11:30pm)
Wow, I missed this. You don't get to talk about education and "physics proving" a conspiracy, because you clearly don't understand physics if you're saying that it explains the towers' collapse.




The "debunking" that followed thoses stupid loose change videos is even more stupid than the videos it is supposed to debunk .. none of them are even close to satisfy me.
I dont have problems with towers collapsing, heated steel over 400°celsius is -30% mecanic resistance if i remember correctly ? building could have had some flaws too as it was already "old".
Furthermore NIST study explained well how WT7 collapsed due to the same reason and how the video of the so called "freefall" was a cutted video no showing left side falling first.

There are still unsolved questions,
1 : how does a commercial plane can support 500+ mph at low altitude without his wings exploding ?
Hell, that's even more interesting with pentagone because they say it runned into it with an absurd approach not higher than 25-30 meters, breaking some streetlights on its passage at the speed of 500-600 mph ?
As I couldnt find the numbers about "force de portance" of such an airbus wings, I asked that question to some physicists and nobody could explain me how the plane went right to its target without his wings getting smashed by the air density at that altitude.

The only possibility left seems that planes would have been drones with reinforced aluminium wings or something else. It is just suppositions and I'm not even sure. But I know the official story is lying.
2 : Where is that fucking plane hitting the pentagone ? Where are thoses 2 tons rolls royce engines ? cant find them ? so unlucky ..

Does people really believe something they don't see ? I mean beside religions people

This post was edited by Melatonina on Sep 13 2018 09:07am
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Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 13 2018 10:05am)
https://media3.giphy.com/media/6yRVg0HWzgS88/200_d.gif

The "debunking" that followed thoses stupid loose change videos is even more stupid than the videos it is supposed to debunk .. none of them are even close to satisfy me.
I dont have problems with towers collapsing, heated steel over 400°celsius is -30% mecanic resistance if i remember correctly ? building could have had some flaws too as it was already "old".
Furthermore NIST study explained well how WT7 collapsed due to the same reason and how the video of the so called "freefall" was a cutted video no showing left side falling first.

There are still unsolved questions,
1 : how does a commercial plane can support 500+ mph at low altitude without his wings exploding ?
Hell, that's even more interesting with pentagone because they say it runned into it with an absurd approach not higher than 25-30 meters, breaking some streetlights on its passage at the speed of 500-600 mph ?
As I couldnt find the numbers about "force de portance" of such an airbus wings, I asked that question to some physicists and nobody could explain me how the plane went right to its target without his wings getting smashed by the air density at that altitude.

The only possibility left seems that planes would have been drones with reinforced aluminium wings or something else. It is just suppositions and I'm not even sure. But I know the official story is lying.
2 : Where is that fucking plane hitting the pentagone ? Where are thoses 2 tons rolls royce engines ? cant find them ? so unlucky ..

Does people really believe something they don't see ? I mean beside religions people


Then you aren't being objective.

1. Commercial airplanes regularly travel about .89-.93 mach. 500 mph is well short of mach at sea level (approximately 760 mph, or .66 mach). The wings don't have to be reinforced to withstand this, they're already designed to. Wings are engineered to withstand far greater stresses than lamp poles.

2. There's a wealth of photographic evidence of an airplane hitting the Pentagon.

Here's a photo of a flight 77 engine:

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Sep 13 2018 01:59pm
Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 13 2018 10:05am)
https://media3.giphy.com/media/6yRVg0HWzgS88/200_d.gif

The "debunking" that followed thoses stupid loose change videos is even more stupid than the videos it is supposed to debunk .. none of them are even close to satisfy me.
I dont have problems with towers collapsing, heated steel over 400°celsius is -30% mecanic resistance if i remember correctly ? building could have had some flaws too as it was already "old".
Furthermore NIST study explained well how WT7 collapsed due to the same reason and how the video of the so called "freefall" was a cutted video no showing left side falling first.

There are still unsolved questions,
1 : how does a commercial plane can support 500+ mph at low altitude without his wings exploding ?
Hell, that's even more interesting with pentagone because they say it runned into it with an absurd approach not higher than 25-30 meters, breaking some streetlights on its passage at the speed of 500-600 mph ?
As I couldnt find the numbers about "force de portance" of such an airbus wings, I asked that question to some physicists and nobody could explain me how the plane went right to its target without his wings getting smashed by the air density at that altitude.

The only possibility left seems that planes would have been drones with reinforced aluminium wings or something else. It is just suppositions and I'm not even sure. But I know the official story is lying.
2 : Where is that fucking plane hitting the pentagone ? Where are thoses 2 tons rolls royce engines ? cant find them ? so unlucky ..

Does people really believe something they don't see ? I mean beside religions people


http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0274.shtml

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Brian also consulted with a pair of commercial airline pilots who decided to try this kind of approach in a flight training simulator. Although the pilots were not sure the simulator models such scenarios with complete accuracy, they reported no significant difficulties in flying a 757 within an altitude of tens of feet at speeds between 350 and 550 mph (565 to 885 km/h) across smooth terrain. The only issue they encountered was constant warnings from the simulator about flying too fast and too low. These warnings were expected since the manufacturer does not recommend and FAA regulations prohibit flying a commercial aircraft the way Flight 77 was flown. These restrictions do not mean it is impossible for a plane to fly at those conditions but that it is extremely hazardous to do so, and safety was obviously not a concern to the terrorists on September 11. An aircraft flying at those high speeds at low altitude would also likely experience shaking due to the loads acting on it, but commercial aircraft are designed with at least a 50% safety margin to survive such extremes.
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