Yeah but you were raised in a city on the east coast. Pretty liberal.

...even us city boys were disciplined but blood letting was never an acceptable part of it . If my Dad had ever drawn blood from one of his children I'm fairly certain my Mom or one of my Grandmothers would have poisoned his dinner

There are plenty of long-term harms of spanking. A quick Google search is all that's needed to know that.

Didn't read through thread but answer for me to the op is that there is a golden mean between encouragement and shame and that's disapproval with love.

Okay I did it someone said it already



This post was edited by Nathan on Mar 20 2016 03:51pm

I did a presentation on this in college, twice--once in a psychology class.

With a towering mountain of evidence, and every expert on the matter saying spanking doesn't help anything and only increases the likelihood of issues immediately and later in life, I thought it would be a slam dunk to convince everyone that corporal punishment, of any kind, is bad. My surprise when I was faced with the entire class saying things along the line of "well I was spanked and I turned out find ergo the studies are wrong" and "wow is this really how PEESEE our culture has become" as if trying not to hurt people for no reason is now a bad thing. And if I ever bring it up on the DF or GC it's usually met with the same, although mostly from Americans.

Americans are just fucking stupid when it comes to this, along with circumcision.

We shouldn't shame obese people but i don't understand fat acceptance or any of the everyone-is-beautiful type of garbage. Morbid obesity isn't simply solved by telling fat people to lose weight though, doctors throughout the world keep telling that to their obese patients and we see how well that works. It's like treating alcoholism by telling the person suffering from it to stop drinking - pretty stupid.

I don't find it fair that a person with a functional appetite regulation system would be accusing a morbidly obese person of lacking willpower. Obesity is more like reverse anorexia. People don't want it and know that it's harmful yet still it manages to become a significant public health issue. This strongly points toward other underlying issues concerning obesity.



They were spanked and now they can't grasp the basics of scientific thinking, coincidence?

This post was edited by Neptunus on Mar 20 2016 04:03pm

Yep. The class was polled before/after to see how many people would be ok with spanking their children, and it was almost everyone as 'yes' before, and about the same after, minus a few people (which I feel really happy about). The second time I presented and heard that argument, as I always do, my last remark before the class before sitting down was, "Actually, if because you were physically hurt you believe it is acceptable to physically hurt others to solve your problems, you didn't turn out ok, and actually prove the results of the studies." Edgelord supreme right there.

I think the argument that would be the most universally convincing is the fact spanking yields no benefit over not doing it. That alone is enough to bring about the question of why would anyone want to hurt their child for no actual benefit? Let alone risking the development of mental disorders.

I mean, that's just like your opinion, man.

I'm okay with parents spanking their kids, even though I acknowledge the massive evidence against its effectiveness, and would never do it myself if I someday have children.

To annoy the people out there who hate hearing about anecdotal evidence, I was spanked, my sisters were spanked, and I don't think we were negatively affected too bad. Most of my friends were spanked, and they're all cool with their parents. I think it's safe to say that a sizable percentage of parents who spank also abuse their children in other ways(verbal, physical).

No wonder you hate women, makes sense now.