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#101
Feb 5 2016 02:52am
Quote (card_sultan @ Feb 4 2016 11:18pm)
So fatter people have bigger brains?

Science - making people smarter 1 calorie at a time.


No & I assume by bigger you mean critical thinking.

Increases/decreases in body fat or lean muscle mass due to environmental factors are not indicative of the genetic proportional relationship.







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Feb 5 2016 07:24am
Quote (Voyaging @ Feb 4 2016 07:54pm)
I should restate by saying that everything good ever is reducible to the specific brain functions associated with pleasure.

That is not true, if we ever have a reason to not to step into a hypothetical pleasure machine (such as an appreciation of the "reality" of our experiences - whatever that may be) then there is something good that is not reducible to pleasure.
+ problems of reference

Quote (EndlessSky @ Feb 4 2016 10:10pm)
Suffering is necessary in the world,

That is not true. There is no physical or metaphysical reason necessitating it.

Quote (Skinned @ Feb 4 2016 08:05pm)
You can't reduce emergent properties to their individual components.

Fitting in hard emergence is an underhanded way of being a materialist!
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#103
Feb 5 2016 01:13pm
Quote (card_sultan @ 5 Feb 2016 10:18)
So fatter people have bigger brains?

Science - making people smarter 1 calorie at a time.


the brain preferes to use carbohidrates to function. in the long term, chances are fat people provide more carbohidrates and without stop, so their brains develop more.
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#104
Feb 5 2016 01:15pm
Quote (Gastly @ Feb 5 2016 08:24am)
Fitting in hard emergence is an underhanded way of being a materialist!


Only a fool would be anything ;)
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#105
Feb 5 2016 01:20pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 4 Feb 2016 17:11)
...for the sake of discussion and reflection I will add an example . The cessation of a severe toothache leads to a sense of gratitude/relief that the pain is over . My belief is that this extrapolates onto all forms of suffering .


Except that's just not how the brain works. Long term suffering leaves people unable to experience pleasure. They don't experience greater pleasure upon the relief of their suffering than someone who has suffered less. They just continue to suffer in another manner.

Just another piece of evidence that we weren't 'designed' by an omnibenevolent creator.
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#106
Feb 5 2016 01:56pm
Quote (the_rest @ Feb 5 2016 02:13pm)
the brain preferes to use carbohidrates to function. in the long term, chances are fat people provide more carbohidrates and without stop, so their brains develop more.


If you're being sarcastic, that's funny - Eating a bag of Oreo's will increase your IQ - lol.

Quote (lodd222 @ Feb 5 2016 03:52am)
No & I assume by bigger you mean critical thinking.

Increases/decreases in body fat or lean muscle mass due to environmental factors are not indicative of the genetic proportional relationship.


no, by bigger brain I'm just talking mass -you know - cause you said the human brain is 2 of body mass, so it's obvious you're not very good at critical thinking just like you said in your pm.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Feb 5 2016 02:02pm
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Feb 5 2016 02:08pm
Quote (Scaly @ Feb 5 2016 02:20pm)
Except that's just not how the brain works. Long term suffering leaves people unable to experience pleasure. They don't experience greater pleasure upon the relief of their suffering than someone who has suffered less. They just continue to suffer in another manner.

Just another piece of evidence that we weren't 'designed' by an omnibenevolent creator.


People who are suffering can be happy. People experiencing pleasure can be unhappy.

Happiness isn't a physical thing, it is an emergent property.
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#108
Feb 5 2016 02:25pm
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 5 2016 03:08pm)
People who are suffering can be happy. People experiencing pleasure can be unhappy.

Happiness isn't a physical thing, it is an emergent property.


nonsense, you can purchase happiness by grams, quarters and ounces
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#109
Feb 5 2016 02:37pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 5 2016 03:25pm)
nonsense, you can purchase happiness by grams, quarters and ounces


good to know what makes you happy.
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#110
Feb 5 2016 05:28pm
Science and god belief are fundamentally two different things. "God" is not falsifiable, therefore it is completely incompatible with science. You might as well be comparing sadness with iron. it just doesn't make sense.

“The God excuse, the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument.” ― George Carlin
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