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Oct 8 2014 06:14am
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 8 2014 07:13am)
How many people do you personally know with 15 kids?

You're all pissed off over a creative fiction designed to dupe you into voting a certain way; its worked like a charm.


Expecting other people to pay for you is not an avenue for success. Want me to phrase it any other ways?
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Oct 8 2014 06:16am
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...starving poor children to death is not tough love , it's genocide .


In some circles, it's a solution.
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Oct 8 2014 06:16am
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Expecting other people to pay for you is not an avenue for success.  Want me to phrase it any other ways?


Do you have any idea how much a gallon of gas actually costs? What about nice low prices on food crops due to government subsidies?

You're subsidized too, just differently. And just because you were born to parents who could afford health care doesn't mean everybody is that lucky.

You're just punishing people for being born in a perceived lower station in life. You need to get over yourself.
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Oct 8 2014 06:20am
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The Welfare Queen is a myth Ronald Reagan and his election team made up.  It is as real as the Marlboro Man on the American Frontier.


I guess the video in the OP caught a stampede of myths on film.

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Oct 8 2014 06:20am
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...if you are a member of this society it most certainly is our responsibility .


No, it is not. Do not be a socialist.
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Oct 8 2014 06:21am
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Do you have any idea how much a gallon of gas actually costs?  What about nice low prices on food crops due to government subsidies?

You're subsidized too, just differently.  And just because you were born to parents who could afford health care doesn't mean everybody is that lucky.

You're just punishing people for being born in a perceived lower station in life.  You need to get over yourself.


I'm all for ending the subsidies you mentioned. Ron Paul 2012.
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Oct 8 2014 06:22am
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I guess the video in the OP caught a stampede of myths on film.


I love fallacies of composition, especially when people make judgements about the whole based on a minor part.

You need to vary your sources of getting data. Reading some dissenting views will go a long way in any topic you believe strongly in.
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Oct 8 2014 06:26am
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I love fallacies of composition, especially when people make judgements about the whole based on a minor part.

You need to vary your sources of getting data.  Reading some dissenting views will go a long way in any topic you believe strongly in.


You need to learn that welfare is what ruins our society. It destroys our culture and the problems it causes now will only get bigger in the future. We can't take care of people, better to let them die or work hard enough to not die. That is what happened in the mid 1800s to the early 1900s. Those immigrants worked in shitty situations to make sure their kids lived here.
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Oct 8 2014 06:33am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Oct 8 2014 07:16am)
In some circles, it's a solution.


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Oct 8 2014 06:34am
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I love fallacies of composition, especially when people make judgements about the whole based on a minor part.

You need to vary your sources of getting data.  Reading some dissenting views will go a long way in any topic you believe strongly in.


My parents didn't come from a wealthy background. They grew up on farms 70 years ago. My father didn't have electricity or running water growing up. The one thing they had plenty of, was work ethic. They worked their asses off to a point I don't even understand or agree with. I believe you have to have some fun in life, and they always were focused on keeping busy.
The people you are so set on feeling sorry for, have no desire to work hard to improve their lives. I work my ass off. They can too. Your subsidy argument fails to account for this. They do not want to work! PERIOD. I account for that. I say fuck them.
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