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Jun 28 2014 08:16pm
Quote (IceMage @ 28 Jun 2014 23:14)
.... the Bible make it pretty clear that there is a judgement day and God will judge us.  Do you disagree with this?


it is individual interpretation.
just do not agree and never will agree that God in his infinite wisdom and goodness condemn every person who has no knowledge of the Christian Bible.
say that God has inferior feelings such as judging and condemning his sons, is to compare it to imperfect men.

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Jun 28 2014 08:17pm
Quote (El Shadday @ Jun 28 2014 10:12pm)
judge is pertinent to men of moral inferiority.
Jesus himself did not judge anyone


Matthew 7
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7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


...this Scripture deals with earthly judgement , how mankind judges each other .
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Jun 28 2014 08:18pm
Quote (El Shadday @ Jun 28 2014 09:16pm)
it is individual interpretation.
just do not agree and never will agree that God in his infinite wisdom and goodness condemn every person who has no knowledge of the Christian Bible.


That's a separate issue and has no bearing on universalism. Many people have heard the Gospel and reject it.
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Jun 28 2014 08:21pm
Quote (El Shadday @ Jun 28 2014 09:16pm)
it is individual interpretation.
just do not agree and never will agree that God in his infinite wisdom and goodness condemn every person who has no knowledge of the Christian Bible.



Well then I am sorry that I disagree. Like I said...This forum is just to tell you what the Bible says. I am not going to try arguing with you about personal beliefs. Part of me really hopes that you are right because I don't want anyone go to hell. I agree to the comments on judgement that have been said. There is an obvious judgement written in the Bible. Jesus is talking to the pharisees telling them that they judge others and so they will be judged. God alone will have the final judgement.
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Jun 28 2014 08:23pm
Quote (wofire @ 28 Jun 2014 23:21)
Well then I am sorry that I disagree. Like I said...This forum is just to tell you what the Bible says. I am not going to try arguing with you about personal beliefs. Part of me really hopes that you are right because I don't want anyone go to hell. I agree to the comments on judgement that have been said. There is an obvious judgement written in the Bible. Jesus is talking to the pharisees telling them that they judge others and so they will be judged. God alone will have the final judgement.



this is the true feeling of love :love:
if everyone believed so, we would have a better planet. :hug:

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Jun 28 2014 08:25pm
Quote (El Shadday @ Jun 28 2014 09:23pm)
this is the true feeling of love  :love:
if everyone believed so, we would have a better planet. :hug:


I'm honestly curious as to what you believe.

Jesus's purpose was what? To bring about a better planet here on earth?
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this is the true feeling of love  :love:
if everyone believed so, we would have a better planet. :hug:



Just because we believe it doesn't make it true. Love is doing what is best for the other person. Sometimes love means telling them something that hurts.
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Quote (IceMage @ 28 Jun 2014 23:25)
I'm honestly curious as to what you believe.

Jesus's purpose was what?  To bring about a better planet here on earth?



Our planet will become a world of regeneration.
Matthew 5
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Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

the proposal of Jesus is summed up in one
John 13
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34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
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Jun 28 2014 08:39pm
Quote (El Shadday @ Jun 28 2014 09:37pm)
Our planet will become a world of regeneration.
Matthew 5
New International Version (NIV)
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

the proposal of Jesus is summed up in one
John 13
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34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.


One wonders why He said anything else.
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Quote (El Shadday @ Jun 28 2014 09:37pm)
Our planet will become a world of regeneration.
Matthew 5
New International Version (NIV)
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

the proposal of Jesus is summed up in one
John 13
New International Version (NIV)
34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.


El Shadday...I am sorry but in no religion can you take 2 verses and ignore the rest. although the 2 verses you have chosen are both very good, without context and without the cross, no good wishing will make things better. Trying to tell people they are going to make it to heaven because they are great at loving others is like putting 1cm bandaid on a decapitated arm and expecting for it to be ok.
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