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Jun 10 2013 05:23am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 10 2013 05:20am)
...I have no interest in enlightening you on your own bigotry and your own style of attack . I also don't have the intellectual patience to pursue discussions with kids who start a post with LOL .


Yes, but you also lack the patience for real discussion when you cannot make the cut, so you throw insults. :(
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Jun 10 2013 05:28am
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Yes, but you also lack the patience for real discussion when you cannot make the cut, so you throw insults. :(


...that is not an insult ; I will not engage in a serious discussion with anyone who thinks LOL is a reasonable introduction to their post , be it you or anyone . Get back to me when you can raise the level of your discourse to an age appropriate level .
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Jun 10 2013 05:29am
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did you look at the contents in which i said that
you clearly have a severe comprehension problem

btw, you have shown that you have great 'faith' in what that study claimed - not because the study 'proved' anything but because you thought it would confirm your belief


and just a little to ponder about:
"science" in the anglo-saxon countries is used in quite a restrictive sense linked to those disciplines which use the "scientific method"
while in german "wissenschaft" incorporates far more, so the study would be rubbish anyhow because it would be culturally sensitive


I've already been over this a million times, and you never addressed my counter.
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Jun 10 2013 05:31am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 10 2013 05:28am)
...that is not an insult ; I will not engage in a serious discussion with anyone who thinks LOL is a reasonable introduction to their post , be it you or anyone . Get back to me when you can raise the level of your discourse to an age appropriate level .


How ironic coming from you. Did you forget about these insults?

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 10 2013 04:58am)
...I am as familiar with them as you if not more so . Never confuse my lack of interest as a lack of knowledge , I am not as desperate as you have always been in proving the possession a keen intellect .


Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 10 2013 05:07am)
...you attacked my religious beliefs a few pages back so you can cram the emoticon where it might at least give you some physical satisfaction .

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Jun 10 2013 05:40am
Quote (AEtheric @ 10 Jun 2013 11:29)
I've already been over this a million times, and you never addressed my counter.


what counter?
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Jun 10 2013 06:13am
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what counter?


I had said this:

Quote (AEtheric @ Jun 10 2013 03:24am)
Boldfaced: Then I fail to see what the issue is here. Both types of study show that people cling to more absolute beliefs when facing hardship. You said this yourself. Therefore, science can also be taken in faith. I believe you are not taking this into account simply because of your bias towards science.

There are plenty of priests who take the bible as the answer and then look for ways of verifying it instead of doing it the other way around. It dosen't matter if there are people who are philosophers with a degree in theology, which is why I had said that there can be faith in science, and that science is not purely analytical and empirical as though faith is its antithesis. Sure, they can 'distinguish', but those who have only scientific beliefs while throwing out the religious beliefs will rely upon whatever allows them to take absolute belief, and, therefore, faith is possible to have in science.


And you pretty much dodged by giving a very vague and generally pointless statement.

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the bolded is where logic fails you
or rather your logic fails

my bias is towards logical thinking  B)
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Jun 10 2013 06:22am
Quote (AEtheric @ 10 Jun 2013 12:13)
I had said this:
And you pretty much dodged by giving a very vague and generally pointless statement.


post#89 for which you claimed 'nitpicking' in post#90
can i help it if you do not understand the difference?

and your "Therefore ..." is logically incorrect, your whole line of reasoning was refuted

do you actually read and try to comprehend what others say if what they saying does not agree with what you are claiming?

bwt, where did the explosion to 'a million times' comes from?

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Quote (brmv @ Jun 10 2013 06:22am)
post#89 for which you claimed 'nitpicking' in post#90
can i help it if you do not understand the difference?

and your "Therefore ..." is logically incorrect, your whole line of reasoning was refuted

do you actually read and try to comprehend what others say if what they saying does not agree with what you are claiming?

bwt, where did the explosion to 'a million times' comes from?


If you read the study, what I said was more accurate, reflecting the design of the study. And that really is nit-picking, as they are essentially the same statements except for you said 'choices' and I said 'beliefs.'

And I could say the same about you from seeing your posts.

By the way, this did not address my argument in the slightest.

The 'explosion' is exaggeration used in colloquial language.
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Jun 10 2013 06:51am
Quote (AEtheric @ 10 Jun 2013 12:27)
If you read the study, what I said was more accurate, reflecting the design of the study. And that really is nit-picking, as they are essentially the same statements except for you said 'choices' and I said 'beliefs.' 
And I could say the same about you from seeing your posts.
By the way, this did not address my argument in the slightest.
The 'explosion' is exaggeration used in colloquial language.


you don't want to understand that the study does not measure what it claimed to do
let me once more try to explain what is wrong with it in very simple terms:
people who are stressed will not take the time to reflect long on a question and therefore with a higher probability will give scores at the extremes of a scale or neutral
ie on a scale of 1-7 they will more often gives 1s,4s and 7s (apart from those who on principle would not give 1s or 7s, the go for the 2s and 6s)
and that is regardless of the question set put to them
with the question set tuned to fit the subject group they would more likely score high
this on top of not having a real control group
bottom line: the study is rubbish

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Quote (AEtheric @ Jun 9 2013 10:53am)
Should those who are atheists or those "I fucking love science" *bleep*, or both, be considered as having faith in science? It appears there are many fictitious constructions within science, but yet they still have faith in it, betraying their own common sense and the scientific method over a faith-filled scientific democracy among the mainstream? This article itself shows that these science *bleep*  pray to their gods of Einstein and Michio Kaku in order to relieve stress just like theists pray to their god(s). I wonder when people will WAKE UP SHEEPLE and understand that science isn't infallible, like most of these *bleep*  do.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/08/atheists-use-science-like-believers-use-faith-in-times-of-stress-says-study/

theres mathematics / proof behind their belief.
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