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May 24 2011 11:44am
Quote (Matao @ 24 May 2011 12:37)
was that link supposed to in some way strengthen your arguement ?
call all the bullshit you want
show your own studys that the majority of christains in fact do beleive this

yeah , all those older strata with dinosaurs , and no humans
and all those newer strata , with humans , and no dinosaurs
zero evidence ........


You made the claim, not I. Back it up, and bow out.

I already addressed all those issues. Please tell me how strata is dated. Oh yeah, by the fossils that are found in them. Please tell me how the baseline age for dinosaurs is determined. Oh yeah, by the strata it's found in. Circular logic for the win! Believe what you want, but don't be a hypocrite and call other people out for doing the same thing.
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May 24 2011 11:44am
Quote (Vereor @ May 24 2011 01:42pm)
what is a fact? how do you define truth?


Well for starters, they keep saying "Geological evidence" and what not, but they aren't showing us what they mean with geological evidence.
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Quote (ArcticShadow @ 24 May 2011 12:39)
Believing something is not knowing something.

A belief requires no evidence or reason, which is why that term is used with religion.


Present your evidence. You have none, therefore you agree that yours is a belief. We asked for empirical evidence. You can provide none. Believe what you want, but don't be a hypocrite and liar.
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Quote (ericswanson_19 @ 24 May 2011 12:38)
as long as it's not taught as certainty, but as an opinion/belief it's not abuse.. if it's taught as certainty aka straight up lying, than that's wrong... obviously parents are teaching this to their kids as factual, which is fucked up.


And schools are teaching the latter as fact. Where's your outrage now?
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May 24 2011 11:47am
Quote (OgreDan @ May 24 2011 01:44pm)
Well for starters, they keep saying "Geological evidence" and what not, but they aren't showing us what they mean with geological evidence.


...what they are doing is claiming the lack of evidence establishes proof which is of course ridiculous . ;)
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May 24 2011 11:47am
Quote (OgreDan @ May 24 2011 09:44am)
Well for starters, they keep saying "Geological evidence" and what not, but they aren't showing us what they mean with geological evidence.


i dont care about proving whether or not dinosaurs existed with man or not. what is truth or fact?
how do you "prove" anything?

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i dont care about proving whether or not dinosaurs existed with man or not. what is truth or fact?


You are dodging my original questions, but fine.
Truth is what is true. Fact is what is fact. Happy now? Look, I've got to go. Just got a call from the place I was hoping to get a job, and I didn't get the job. Now I've got a whole hell of a lot of things to do, and places to call, and hope I can find someplace else.
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i dont care about proving whether or not dinosaurs existed with man or not. what is truth or fact?


Then you're asking the wrong person, because this topic is about teaching creationism, and it being a lie/fairy tale. You should be addressing the topic creator who made such a claim.
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May 24 2011 11:55am
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Then you're asking the wrong person, because this topic is about teaching creationism, and it being a lie/fairy tale. You should be addressing the topic creator who made such a claim.


ogre wants proof, i want to know what proof would be.
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May 24 2011 11:57am
Quote (njaguar @ May 24 2011 11:45am)
And schools are teaching the latter as fact. Where's your outrage now?


The books at the school I went to had the word theory written in them.
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