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#101
Apr 26 2011 10:36am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 26 2011 12:32pm)
How is my mere presence within the same bathroom as a minor girl obscene?

Bold: No need for personal attacks.


...it is a statement of morality not a personal attack . Fortunately there are laws based on that morality to protect the innocents .

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#102
Apr 26 2011 10:37am
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By focusing on that aspect of the issue (violence against a certain group) in stead of just the issue (violence), you promote the categorization of different groups within a society.
We are all individuals with rights, no matter our skincolor, gender, sexuality, ... By focusing on one aspect of a group of individuals, you make that aspect an issue.

By focusing on the fact that (in this situation) a transgendered person was beaten, you lose sight of the plain fact that a person was beaten.


I disagree, we don't lose sight of the plain fact that a person was beaten, as we take notice of the fact that a person was beaten because they are transgendered and were using the bathroom that they ought be free to use. It brings light to a greater issue we face within society, which is transphobia.

Why something happens is just as important as what actually happened. For instance, if we just take 'a person was beaten', then we're not really telling the whole story, nor are we addressing the major issue here.
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#103
Apr 26 2011 10:38am
Quote (ArcticShadow @ Apr 26 2011 04:35pm)
The fact that he has identity/psycological issues is irrelevant. Men don't belong in public female's bathroom with teenage girls.


Bold: Why not?
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#104
Apr 26 2011 10:39am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 26 2011 04:36pm)
...it is a statement of morality not a personal attack . Fortunately there are laws based on that morality to protect the innocents .


I have my own set of morals, as do you. Merely because ours don't align doesn't mean that I lack decency.

Also, my question still stands:

How is my mere presence within the same bathroom as a minor girl obscene?
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#105
Apr 26 2011 10:41am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 26 2011 11:33am)
Discretion? What, is your penis going to fly out and twirl around as soon as you walk into the bathroom? Give me a break...


Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 26 2011 11:38am)
Bold: Why not?


Think about the children instead of your irrational attempt to defend some misguided gay rights agenda. How about it might make the child uncormfortable, or respecting the parents of the child.

It's fucking retarded to think it's OK for grown man to share a bathroom with underage girls.

This post was edited by ArcticShadow on Apr 26 2011 10:42am
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#106
Apr 26 2011 10:41am
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I disagree, we don't lose sight of the plain fact that a person was beaten, as we take notice of the fact that a person was beaten because they are transgendered and were using the bathroom that they ought be free to use. It brings light to a greater issue we face within society, which is transphobia.

Why something happens is just as important as what actually happened. For instance, if we just take 'a person was beaten', then we're not really telling the whole story, nor are we addressing the major issue here.


I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here.
I understand where you're coming from, and I do agree that it's important understand a motive behind a crime (on an individual and/or societal level). But I don't really see the point to differentiate between a crime and a hatecrime, as such.
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#107
Apr 26 2011 10:43am
Quote (ArcticShadow @ Apr 26 2011 04:41pm)
Think about the children instead of your irrational attempt to defend some misguided gay rights agenda. How about it might make the child uncormfortable, or respecting the parents of the child.

It's fucking retarded to think it's OK for grown man to share a bathroom with underage girls.


If our children are growing up to be made uncomfortable by the thought of using the same bathroom as someone of a differing sex, then we as a society have a lot of changing to do.

Also, you never really answered my question, so with the bolded: Why?
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#108
Apr 26 2011 10:45am
Quote (ArcticShadow @ 26 Apr 2011 17:41)
Think about the children instead of your irrational attempt to defend some misguided gay rights agenda.  How about it might make the child uncormfortable, or respecting the parents of the child.

It's fucking retarded to think it's OK for grown man to share a bathroom with underage girls.



Why is it wrong for a man to take a piss in the same room as a girl, provided he doesn't flash his penis or otherwise behaves inappropriately?

He walks in, goes into an unoccupied stall, takes a piss, washes his hands, walks out? Where's the harm, exactly?
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#109
Apr 26 2011 10:47am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 26 2011 04:43pm)
If our children are growing up to be made uncomfortable by the thought of using the same bathroom as someone of a differing sex, then we as a society have a lot of changing to do.

Also, you never really answered my question, so with the bolded: Why?


i'll tell you why MY daughter will never go into a restroom with a grown man, because i said so. thats enough reason for me. i dont want the chance of somthing happening to even be exist
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#110
Apr 26 2011 10:48am
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Apr 26 2011 04:45pm)
Why is it wrong for a man to take a piss in the same room as a girl, provided he doesn't flash his penis or otherwise behaves inappropriately?

He walks in, goes into an unoccupied stall, takes a piss, washes his hands, walks out? Where's the harm, exactly?


how do you know thats all thats going to happen? you dont. so yo keep them separte. how is it hard for you to understand?
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