challenge accepted.

1. On average 1-2 school shootings per week: https://usafacts.org/articles/the-latest-government-data-on-school-shootings/
2. 1000-1200 total shootings per week in the US: https://www.legalreader.com/gun-violence-statistics-2024-comprehensive-look-at-the-data/
3. The US is very violent country on the planet - https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/2024/oct/comparing-deaths-gun-violence-us-other-countries
4. 65-70% of all gun related shootings, on the planet, occur in the USA. - https://www.who.int/health-topics/violence and https://www.who.int/data/gho
5. https://www.chicagopolice.org/statistics-data/crime-statistics/ and https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-shootings-crimes-crime/14254533/

The only one of these which is vague is the gun related shootings, as it does not take wars into account.

no need to apologize for calling me a liar, i understand how these facts might weigh heavily on you. it is always good to learn something new. do your research before spouting drivel, cheers!

It's important to understand that nearly *all* of US gun violence is committed by black people. The US gun violence statistics, if you just look at white people, are on par with or even LOWER than similar Western nations.

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 7 2024 12:52pm

yes but im not racist so i dont look at black or white people, i just look at people.

Homicides: Black Americans, who make up roughly 13% of the U.S. population, account for a significant portion of gun-related homicides, but it is far from nearly all. For example, Black individuals account for about 50% of all firearm-related homicides, but White Americans, who make up about 60% of the population, account for a large portion of gun-related deaths as well, particularly in areas outside urban centers.

Mass Shootings: The perpetrators of mass shootings—defined as events where four or more people are injured—are overwhelmingly White. In fact, according to data from the Gun Violence Archive and other sources, many mass shootings are carried out by White individuals, particularly in suburban or rural settings, which leads to a different pattern of gun violence than in urban areas.

White Americans, especially in rural areas, are also significantly affected by gun violence, including suicides, which account for the majority of firearm deaths in the U.S.

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did you just bait me to post that lol. what a baddy!

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 7 2024 01:25pm

No it is isnt always bad

This case is a good example, the shooter is a hero to millions of people

If the things coming out in the media about Thomson (using AI to deny huge percentage of just claims, insider trading, all affecting thousands and thousands of people and effectively killing some of them and effectively stealing everyone involved time/money) than you are correct for this instance. What we need to fix is that our justice system should hang people in the streets that are proven to do extreme white collar crime that lead to such casualties as are possible from people working at places like United Health Care and being a demon instead of a good human. Calling on the justice system to work in a proper way to STOP THE WHITE COLLAR CRIME and go back to an optimistic future where innovation leads to better standards of living for the masses as well as sustainability for the planet we need to live. Think of the billions if not trillions saved on propaganda to get every1 sad, ignorant, and consuming $ products. This negative propaganda is sourced from big moneys, I'd like my kids to live in a world free of this GARBAGE.

Graph out net assets/ave(income) you prolly could find some serious crime trails. But you also would have to make it so it wasn't so easy to money launder with Crypto as well.

If Trump or RFK or DoGE billys don't focus on criminal law simplification I think they are really missing an opportunity to make the world a lot better for everyone, even the elites because the world/economy would stabilize and be safer for them as well!

I'm not calling you a liar. I just suspect you fell for some propaganda that you are repeating and I know your stats are incorrect. It happens.

You should also try searching for evidence that counters the narratives you've been fed, not just scramble to justify them.



Overcounting school shootings is a well known fraudulent tactic that has been gone over a number of times on here.
The definition they use is so broad it counts an officer accidently shooting his foot during a demonstration or a stray bullet in a parking lot in the middle of the night next to a school thats been closed down. It does not at all match a reasonable definition of what people think of as a 'school shooting'

"brandishes or fires a gun on school property or a bullet hits school property for any reason, regardless of the number of victims, time or day of the week, or motivation."



I don't see 1000-1200 anywhere in that source.

It is a solid article though.



This isn't a specific claim or proper English so its not exactly clear what this claim is supposed to mean.

The source you linked is only looking at gun deaths and includes suicides.

The US is something like 75th in intentional homicide rates. Several times lower than the neighboring country of Mexico.



Your links dont go to anything specific.

70% of all shootings in the world? That is a claim that should set off the alarm bells in your head. 'That can't be right'.

The US is not even #1 in total firearm deaths.
I don't believe there is a reliable database of 'shootings' or shooting injuries by country, but that number is absurd.
How do you get to 70%? are we counting every time someone goes to the gun range a shooting? or do you mean where someone gets shot/killed? because its not remotely close to 70%.



Both of your sources indicate its lower than 58 per week, but lots of shootings in Chicago is completely plausible and not really what i'm taking issue with.

Honestly chiraq drill culture relies on a steady flow of dead opps to diss so the only way to stop the deaths is to introduce gangs to country music so they are too depressed to bang.

Its all quite irrelevant. Its a story about some random person being murdered over a perceived societal grievance by a radical, who probably didn't know who he was shooting at beyond a healthcare CEO, and not sure which.

People have longstanding grievances with healthcare in America. It is fundamentally a social service set up specifically to do good and save lives, which it does. It is the instrument by which those with means give to those in need. I pay high premiums and receive no benefits, others pay nothing and receive much. There are plenty of ways it has gone astray and I for one always supported full nationalization of healthcare and research and drug production, bit none of that sums up to a crusade to kill people on a vague sense of their identity.

13% of the population are black people who commit 50% of the murders. The rates of black on white homicide, rape, aggravated assault and robbery are all orders of magnitude higher than the inverse. They pay less in taxes and consume more in social services. Does this justify a racist shooter who goes to a ghetto and starts gunning down random black men? Longstanding deep societal issues, blaming the people who are responsible. So go out and kill some random person with no idea who they are or what they've done.

Again, this is the single most pernicious strain of disease blightinf modern history. If a man with a gun drags away the guy next to you and shoots him in the head and tells you he was an enemy of the revolution, will you cheer his death? One man got murdered by one radical, but he's a hero to millions of people who think their indiscriminate violence and hatred are justified.

Its something beyond the mere concern of civil liberties and need for impartial justice. Its not an issue of pacifism or aversion to change. Its that simple streak of basic human decency that should override the impulse to join and support mob violence. That if you see such a degenerate display of hatred and malice, it should repulse you

Yeah he knew nothing about the ceo or the company but he carved their mantra into his shell casings.
The absolute state of you.

Dylann Roof knew all about black people right?