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Nov 19 2024 05:16am
Putin just updated the state policy for nuclear deterrence...you can imagine what was added.

The Ukrainian military has carried out its first strike on Russian territory using U.S.-made ATACMS ballistic missiles
According to the source, the strike targeted a military facility near the town of Karachev in Russia’s Bryansk region
https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/11/19/ukraine-strikes-russian-territory-with-atacms-for-the-first-time-rbc-ukraine

Also, interesting enough, russia went through a massive modernization program for all its nuclear weapons between 2011-2020. Spent almost a hundred billion and even came up with some fancy-dancy ones like the avangard and status-6. Meanwhile, america is still field testing their minutemen3s from the 60s, as the sentinel program is still a ways away.(they do have air launched nukes from the f35s, which is their saving grace currently)Russia doesnt fuck around with their SSBNs and their nukes because they understand the importance of second-strike capabilities against nato.
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Nov 19 2024 08:38am
Quote (zorzin @ 19 Nov 2024 12:16)
Putin just updated the state policy for nuclear deterrence...you can imagine what was added.

The Ukrainian military has carried out its first strike on Russian territory using U.S.-made ATACMS ballistic missiles
According to the source, the strike targeted a military facility near the town of Karachev in Russia’s Bryansk region
https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/11/19/ukraine-strikes-russian-territory-with-atacms-for-the-first-time-rbc-ukraine

Also, interesting enough, russia went through a massive modernization program for all its nuclear weapons between 2011-2020. Spent almost a hundred billion and even came up with some fancy-dancy ones like the avangard and status-6. Meanwhile, america is still field testing their minutemen3s from the 60s, as the sentinel program is still a ways away.(they do have air launched nukes from the f35s, which is their saving grace currently)Russia doesnt fuck around with their SSBNs and their nukes because they understand the importance of second-strike capabilities against nato.


first Ukrainian ATACMS strike is neither against North Koreans, nor it was in Kursk region.
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Nov 19 2024 08:46am
To me this north Korean threat still seems like a media narrative spin than something tangible. Have there been any confirmed Korean troops in Ukraine? We know western mercenaries are in Ukraine because there have been dozens that have been captured/killed, etc, but is there any real evidence that North Koreans are on any Ukrainian territory?

It's possible Kim deployed them to be support i.e. logistics and maybe for training purposes (there's no training like real world actual war) but so far i haven't seen much engagement from them based on battleground footage/reports.

To use this as pretext to escalate seems premature and the logic is shaky. Again, we have/had hundreds if not thousands of mercenaries join Ukraine, in what rules for thee but not for me fashion would the other side be forbidden of also having mercs?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 19 2024 08:52am
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Nov 19 2024 08:56am
Quote (zorzin @ Nov 19 2024 03:16am)

Also, interesting enough, russia went through a massive modernization program for all its nuclear weapons between 2011-2020. Spent almost a hundred billion and even came up with some fancy-dancy ones like the avangard and status-6. Meanwhile, america is still field testing their minutemen3s from the 60s, as the sentinel program is still a ways away.(they do have air launched nukes from the f35s, which is their saving grace currently)Russia doesnt fuck around with their SSBNs and their nukes because they understand the importance of second-strike capabilities against nato.


Interesting. Well, I've had a good run, won't be having that beer with gnarjay after all, perhaps the greatest tragedy of all.
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Nov 19 2024 08:59am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 19 2024 08:46am)
To me this north Korean threat still seems like a media narrative spin than something tangible. Have there been any confirmed Korean troops in Ukraine? We know western mercenaries are in Ukraine because there have been dozens that have been captured/killed, etc, but is there any real evidence that North Koreans are on any Ukrainian territory?

It's possible Kim deployed them to be support i.e. logistics and maybe for training purposes (there's no training like real world actual war) but so far i haven't seen much engagement from them based on battleground footage/reports.

To use this as pretext to escalate seems premature and the logic is shaky. Again, we have/had hundreds if not thousands of mercenaries join Ukraine, in what rules for thee but not for me fashion would the other side be forbidden of also having mercs?


A safe position to be sure. any time North Korea is involved there's a near 100% chance its because a boogeyman is needed. North Korea has zero interest in global ambitions, they just want to hold onto domestic control in perpetuity.
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Nov 19 2024 11:36am
Quote (thesnipa @ 19 Nov 2024 15:59)
A safe position to be sure. any time North Korea is involved there's a near 100% chance its because a boogeyman is needed. North Korea has zero interest in global ambitions, they just want to hold onto domestic control in perpetuity.


first confirmed sighting of North Koreans:
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Nov 19 2024 11:54am
Quote (gnarjay @ Nov 18 2024 08:04pm)
didnt realize there were so many Putin bootlickers on this sub, yikes


Nah bro nah they arent russia bootlickers. But they definitely are terrified at the notion of striking back at a bully for some reason.

It would definitely be weird for Russia to keep thier ground troops and other assets in such terrible and dilapidated condition, yet keep such a large arsenal of nuclear arms in prestine working order. I'd definitely keep the pants pissing to a minimum on this one.
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Nov 19 2024 03:40pm
Quote (Sh00p @ 20 Nov 2024 01:54)
Nah bro nah they arent russia bootlickers. But they definitely are terrified at the notion of striking back at a bully for some reason.

It would definitely be weird for Russia to keep thier ground troops and other assets in such terrible and dilapidated condition, yet keep such a large arsenal of nuclear arms in prestine working order. I'd definitely keep the pants pissing to a minimum on this one.


So 9/11 Allahu Ackbars / Goat Lovers are Heroes ? :o
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Nov 19 2024 04:32pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 20 2024 07:40am)
So 9/11 Allahu Ackbars / Goat Lovers are Heroes ? :o


Wtf are you talking about?
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Nov 19 2024 04:53pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 20 Nov 2024 06:32)
Wtf are you talking about?




This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 19 2024 04:56pm
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