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Oct 1 2024 11:14pm
Quote (Sioux @ Oct 1 2024 09:57pm)
Your argument is just "Everyone knows X" with no evidence. I've managed people with PhDs and without, and theres idiots in both. People who've completed graduate school tend to be better problem solvers, and have greater levels of independence in tackling complex problems than people without on the whole however.


That is fair, and I recognize the trends that you've seen could be valid for whatever specific research or work your experience is in. Working independently and solving problems themselves is of course a hallmark of what graduate school is/should be so it makes sense that the people you or your people hire would reflect those traits. There is however a lot, a lot lot, of PhD graduates who are left behind & left to fend for themselves - this is less common in fields with direct to private sector work opportunities like applied mathematics, computer science, (bio)chemistry, engineering, & others excluding professional degrees, and more common in the remainder. Either left behind/incompetent/shouldn't have been given a degree there are a ton of them around taking minimum wage jobs. And there's still the huge adjunct professor problem in academia now and it's even worse, common in as early as 2010, these guys get paid basically minimum wage.

And, all the best work opportunities for those are generally all in big cities, so you have to live there unless you get a cushy work from home position. Which is a tough sell.
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Oct 1 2024 11:14pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 1 2024 10:13pm)
Weren't you the guy who made fun of me because I didn't get accepted into an Engineering school but then when I told you I built and sold a lawn maintenance company at 25 and never have to work again you seemed pretty off?

You took on way too much debt dude. Make fun of people because they don't have a degree but do you have a million in the bank??? :bouncy:

I'm around a lot of Hindu people and I'll be the first to tell you that in less then 3 months of being mentored by a retired IT professional and business owner he got me a job as a software dev at Caterpillar a fortune 100 company.

I had an associates degree(outdated) and he taught me everything I needed to know to work for one of their subsidiary companies.

He would often say how people with PhD's lack people skills and that's the only thing that matters in business.

Would've never thought after selling my business that when I went to seek God I'd meet someone who would teach me how to work remote making great money with zero experience in the field.

What was your degree in again? What's your monthly tuition payment?


what a weird fantasy world you've created for yourself
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Oct 1 2024 11:16pm
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must be a medical miracle


https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/David-Tagler-54209870

Can I see your work? Here's his.
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Oct 1 2024 11:18pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 1 2024 10:14pm)
That is fair, and I recognize the trends that you've seen could be valid for whatever specific research or work your experience is in. Working independently and solving problems themselves is of course a hallmark of what graduate school is/should be so it makes sense that the people you or your people hire would reflect those traits. There is however a lot, a lot lot, of PhD graduates who are left behind & left to fend for themselves - this is less common in fields with direct to private sector work opportunities like applied mathematics, computer science, (bio)chemistry, engineering, & others excluding professional degrees, and more common in the remainder. Either left behind/incompetent/shouldn't have been given a degree there are a ton of them around taking minimum wage jobs. And there's still the huge adjunct professor problem in academia now and it's even worse, common in as early as 2010, these guys get paid basically minimum wage.

And, all the best work opportunities for those are generally all in big cities, so you have to live there unless you get a cushy work from home position. Which is a tough sell.


I work in cell bio/neuroscience and some people do get passed through the system just to get them out, but there's a lot more world to research than just grad school>Postdoc>TT professor or fail and end up adjunct. I know more people who've gone into VC/consulting post degree than adjuncting in general. but i also got my degree at a name brand (tm) school. This is probably more of a risk once you leave a top 5 institution.
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Oct 1 2024 11:21pm
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i have nothing to prove to you lol but a few random articles in non-elite journals doesn't mean much to me. I wouldn't hire someone with this publication record to be honest but its fine.
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Oct 1 2024 11:21pm
Quote (Sioux @ 2 Oct 2024 00:14)
what a weird fantasy world you've created for yourself


People who create multi's on jsp are the ones who create fantasy worlds.

Your just mad because you spent 400k on a worthless degree and I made 400k before I was 25 years old.

u mad bro?
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Oct 1 2024 11:23pm
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People who create multi's on jsp are the ones who create fantasy worlds.

Your just mad because you spent 400k on a worthless degree and I made 400k before I was 25 years old.

u mad bro?


I never spent 400k on a degree and I never said I didn't make 400k before 25. Do you just make up facts as a cope?
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Oct 1 2024 11:24pm
Quote (Sioux @ 2 Oct 2024 00:21)
i have nothing to prove to you lol but a few random articles in non-elite journals doesn't mean much to me. I wouldn't hire someone with this publication record to be honest but its fine.


My cousin is much smarter then you and has worked at the highest levels of the US military and Private sector.

I trust his word 10000000000x over your random ass.

Like I said let's see your work?????? You told someone else to show their work now I tell you my cousin is wicked smart and your running to your cave again?

"Oh I wouldn't hire him"

But the NSA and Microsoft did.

You are truly edumuhkated
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Oct 1 2024 11:25pm
Quote (Sioux @ Oct 1 2024 10:18pm)
I work in cell bio/neuroscience and some people do get passed through the system just to get them out, but there's a lot more world to research than just grad school>Postdoc>TT professor or fail and end up adjunct. I know more people who've gone into VC/consulting post degree than adjuncting in general. but i also got my degree at a name brand (tm) school. This is probably more of a risk once you leave a top 5 institution.


That's a good field and I agree there is alot of private sector work out there for that work. It's hard work too and rewards the best well enough. Being a venture capitalist is like Vivek Ramaswamy in this regard, I mean if you're there the potential is endless.

Name brand is true often. My brother was top at a major Ivy League school. It was beautiful, they sadly had nets set up at the waterfall to prevent suicides. That matters alot in these circumstances. My degree is the so-called #1 university in Canada which gives can open stuff here but nothing like the Ivy League pipelines
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Oct 1 2024 11:25pm
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My cousin is much smarter then you and has worked at the highest levels of the US military and Private sector.

I trust his word 10000000000x over your random ass.

Like I said let's see your work?????? You told someone else to show their work now I tell you my cousin is wicked smart and your running to your cave again?

"Oh I wouldn't hire him"

But the NSA and Microsoft did.

You are truly edumuhkated


alright
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