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Sep 17 2024 07:16am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 17 2024 03:06am)
I want to hear what you guys think would happen

Say the 3rd (or 4th at this rate) gunman's bullet actually catches Trump. What would be the effects on the election, and the country, short/long term?


It would mark a pretty obvious decline in our republic. What's more troubling is this collective silence about the fact that Democrats and the collective media has basically primed the crazies to resort to this type of behavior. For 8 years, Trump was spammed as every evil thing under the sun, often on clear lies and smears and there's no collective acknowledgement that it was highly corrosive to our democracy and led to extreme polarization.
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just joining in here, was Crooks recruited by Routh?
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Sep 17 2024 08:02am
The absolute worst trope of all journalistic malpractice to emerge in the last few years, or at least the one that sticks out to me as the most flagrant and obvious example to anyone who has seen it more than once, is the phrase "without evidence". Used exclusively to smear Trump, of course;
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/16/trump-blames-biden-harris-rhetoric-potential-assassination-attempt/

Trump, in a post in which he categorically laid out the evidence of incendiary rhetoric by democrats in detailed fashion, linking URLs to each comment in twitter or media reports was "WITHOUT EVIDENCE"
I mean holy shit do they even think for one braindead second what their headline is saying?;
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/7b04b05d-a8ed-479c-b92d-5868a1f6873b

Here's Trump's evidence:

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Democrats used increasingly incendiary rhetoric against President Trump in the days, weeks, and months leading up to the two assassination attempts:

Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."
Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."
Kamala Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"
Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."
Joe Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation."
Joe Biden: "There is one existential threat: it's Donald Trump."
Joe Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to this nation ... He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
Joe Biden: "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."
Joe Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic ... and that is a threat to this country."
Tim Walz: "Are [Republicans] a threat to democracy? Yes. ... Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."
Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi: "[Trump] is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."
Rep. Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general — they are threats to us domestically."
Rep. Dan Goldman: "He is destructive to our democracy and ... he has to be eliminated."
Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."
Top Harris surrogate Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."
Rep. Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."
Rep. Maxine Waters: "Are [Trump supporters] preparing a civil war against us?"
Rep. Maxine Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that [Trump] is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."
Rep. Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."
Rep. Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."
Rep. Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."
Rep. Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."
Rep. Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."
Rep. Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-wing followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."
Rep. Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat [Trump] poses to American democracy."
Rep. Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."
Rep. Raul Grijalva: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
Sen. Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."
Rep. Stacey Plaskett: Trump "needs to be shot."
Rep. Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."
Rep. Gabe Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."
Rep. Mike Levin: "Donald Trump is a threat to our nation, our freedom, and our democracy."
Rep. Eric Sorensen: "He is the greatest threat to law and order we have in our country."
Rep. Greg Landsman: "The threat is not over."
Rep. Pat Ryan: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project: "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump."
Former Harris-Biden staffer Kate Bedingfield: Democrats should "turn their fire on Donald Trump."
That doesn't even include the dangerous rhetoric against President Trump spewed by deranged Democrats during the 2016 and 2020 elections, the impeachment hoaxes, and the Summer of Love.



Meanwhile, the deplorable commentary from Democrats and the Fake News in the aftermath of the latest assassination attempt has been even worse:

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries: "We must stop [Trump]."
Rachel Vindman, wife of disgraced impeachment hoax 'witness': "No ears were harmed. Carry on with your Sunday afternoon."
Rep. Mikie Sherrill: "This really seems to be the confluence of two very bad things going on in the Republican Party ... the attempts to divide, to enrage the population."
State Rep. Steven Woodrow (D-CO): "The last thing America needed was sympathy for the devil but here we are."
Lester Holt, NBC Nightly News: "Today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump, his running mate JD Vance, continue to make baseless claims..."
Alex Witt, MSNBC: "Do you expect there to be calls from within the Trump campaign to [tone it down]?"
Phil Bump, The Washington Post: "Another chance for Trump to frame Democrats as dangerous has emerged."
Bill Kristol, The Bulwark: "Vance ... incitepotential violence with lies."
Ron Filipkowski, liberal commentator: "Was the golf course guy with the gun a migrant?"
David Frum, The Atlantic: "Trump and his running mate have spent the past week successfully inciting violence ... today they want to present themselves as near-victims of violence."
Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine: "Trump is a threat to democracy, and saying so is not incitement."
The Cincinnati Enquirer: "The former president, Donald Trump, brings a lot of this stuff on himself."
USA TODAY: "Hope in America."
NBC News: "Golf course incident."
Bloomberg: Trump "seizing on assassination attempt."
Democrats and the Fake News must immediately cease their inflammatory, violent rhetoric against President Trump — which was mimicked by yesterday's would-be asssassin.[/S]


This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 17 2024 08:03am
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Sep 17 2024 08:06am
I swear just imagine them printing a headline like
>Anthony Fauci, without evidence, claims vaccine is effective at reducing severe symptoms of Covid-19

That's basically what WaPo is doing here. The man actually laid out 54 specific quotes as evidence and WaPo led with "without evidence" because apparently that's just pasted in with a single button on their keyboard

well, 53 incendiary quotes and for some reason a really stupid harmless one by Gwen Walz that worked its way in there, with her metamorphosing into a human windshield wiper

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 17 2024 08:08am
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Goom wearing out the keyboard today.
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Sep 17 2024 10:37am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 17 2024 09:06am)
I swear just imagine them printing a headline like
>Anthony Fauci, without evidence, claims vaccine is effective at reducing severe symptoms of Covid-19

That's basically what WaPo is doing here. The man actually laid out 54 specific quotes as evidence and WaPo led with "without evidence" because apparently that's just pasted in with a single button on their keyboard

well, 53 incendiary quotes and for some reason a really stupid harmless one by Gwen Walz that worked its way in there, with her metamorphosing into a human windshield wiper


If local news organizations still existed across all US jurisdictions, do you think that would be an effective way to offset the unchecked propaganda legacy federated media publishes? For example, most cities had some local physical paper arranged by local journalists, paper boys, etc. In my lifetime, almost all of those publishers are gone, or regurgitating the same federated story.

Pseudo decentralized journalism versus high tech federated.

Maybe a better question is how many Americans believe the first reporting on 'news' which is often inaccurate or falsified.

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Quote (RedFromWinter @ Sep 17 2024 08:09am)
Goom wearing out the keyboard today.


his name is literally goom and shill, how does no1 on pard get this lol.


hes a comic, and hes good at it for the most part.
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Quote (RedFromWinter @ Sep 17 2024 09:37am)
If local news organizations still existed across all US jurisdictions, do you think that would be an effective way to offset the unchecked propaganda legacy federated media publishes? For example, most cities had some local physical paper arranged by local journalists, paper boys, etc. In my lifetime, almost all of those publishers are gone, or regurgitating the same federated story.

Pseudo decentralized journalism versus high tech federated.

Maybe a better question is how many Americans believe the first reporting on 'news' which is often inaccurate or falsified.


agreed but in some cases like for roswell or miamimall 2024, the 1st reporting is the closest youll get and sometimes youre lucky to even know about it in that way.

they dimmed the sun for 27 days 2022 winter and no1 talked about it not even on pard. far more concerning hence why im here.
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Sep 17 2024 04:01pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Sep 17 2024 05:25pm)
his name is literally goom and shill, how does no1 on pard get this lol.


hes a comic, and hes good at it for the most part.


I thought it was Goom's Hill

Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 17 2024 10:06am)
I swear just imagine them printing a headline like
>Anthony Fauci, without evidence, claims vaccine is effective at reducing severe symptoms of Covid-19

That's basically what WaPo is doing here. The man actually laid out 54 specific quotes as evidence and WaPo led with "without evidence" because apparently that's just pasted in with a single button on their keyboard

well, 53 incendiary quotes and for some reason a really stupid harmless one by Gwen Walz that worked its way in there, with her metamorphosing into a human windshield wiper


It's the same with "expert says". Just a way to convince people who won't bother reading the full article or looking into a subject. "WaPo said without evidence, so it must be true, Trump is lying again"
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Sep 17 2024 04:16pm
Quote (lodd222 @ Sep 17 2024 04:38pm)
agreed but in some cases like for roswell or miamimall 2024, the 1st reporting is the closest youll get and sometimes youre lucky to even know about it in that way.

they dimmed the sun for 27 days 2022 winter and no1 talked about it not even on pard. far more concerning hence why im here.


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