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May 30 2024 11:44pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 30 2024 10:36pm)
6 years? It's been obvious since about 2012 that Cam was just a closet Republican. I very vividly remember him ducking and dodging from addressing Romney's policies he disagreed with. Y'all need to get on my level.


Seriously though, there's principled libertarians and there's others. A person named Dave Smith who for some reason calls himself a comedian shows up on Joe Rogan's podcast and they don't talk about the reasons Trump sucks. People who identify as heterodox thinkers are going to oppose the "popular" ideas and they'll latch onto basically anyone, as long as the "establishment" doesn't support them.

So Joe Rogan won't have anyone on who supports Biden, but he'll have a million people on who think Trump's funny and who don't give a fuck if Trump tries to steal another election. All for the lulz bruh.

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May 30 2024 11:46pm
Quote (Pyrotechx @ May 31 2024 01:35am)
You're literally parroting fox news talking points and you claim others are just following a Democrat narrative, lol.

Did you even read the Russia docs? I'm guessing not. Use your own brain and read it and maybe you'll be able to understand there was collusion. Or continue to live in ignorance.

And what happened to Roger Stone? Oh yea, more criminals. It's hilarious how you refuse to think for yourself.



And yea, I know you watch fox news.


You dont have an intellectual response to anything. Just parroting democrat narratives and saying fox news and conspiracy when presented with uncomfortable facts and refutations.
Saying i refuse to think for myself is pure projection. You dont seem mentally capable of dealing with the points on merit so you write it off as Republican and fox news over and over.

Oh hes a 'criminal'. Guess that means if he talked to assange the whole russian collusion hoax really happened.

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And yea, I think 54 terrorists in prison is worse than rioters ruining some property that insurance paid for because there is systemic racism and injustice. Just look at the Trump trials if you want to see a two tiered system.

Full npc again. You choosing to align with actual terrorists and calling proud boys terrorists does not actually mean that widespread rioting and attacks on innocent people is less damage or less bad than some frat guys that fought with antifa.

The 'systemic racism' and 'its just insurance so its ok' brain rot cliches were pretty funny inclusions too. Definitely thinking for yourself there.
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May 30 2024 11:49pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 12:46am)
You dont have an intellectual response to anything. Just parroting democrat narratives and saying fox news and conspiracy when presented with uncomfortable facts and refutations.
Saying i refuse to think for myself is pure projection. You dont seem mentally capable of dealing with the points on merit so you write it off as Republican and fox news over and over.

Oh hes a 'criminal'. Guess that means if he talked to assange the whole russian collusion hoax really happened.


Full npc again. You choosing to align with actual terrorists and calling proud boys terrorists does not actually mean that widespread rioting and attacks on innocent people is less damage or less bad than some frat guys that fought with antifa.

The 'systemic racism' and 'its just insurance so its ok' brain rot cliches were pretty funny inclusions too. Definitely thinking for yourself there.


Lol

Aight man, obviously deep thinking is not your thing. Enjoy your, uh, wonderland.
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May 30 2024 11:50pm
Quote (Pyrotechx @ May 31 2024 01:49am)
Lol

Aight man, obviously deep thinking is not your thing. Enjoy your, uh, wonderland.


Yeah its just 'wonderland'. Thats it.

What an impressive refutation!

Anything to avoid having to confront reality.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 12:50am)
Yeah its just 'wonderland'. Thats it.

What an impressive refutation!

Anything to avoid having to confront reality.


You have no argument. When people present you with LITERAL facts, you go, "nuh uh! NPC!". You live in your own world, where facts are what you decide they are. You complain about some big dem scheme, yet if it were such a story, why haven't any of the Republicans opened an investigation?

So, what do you want to debate?
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Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2024 01:36am)
6 years? It's been obvious since about 2012 that Cam was just a closet Republican. I very vividly remember him ducking and dodging from addressing Romney's policies he disagreed with. Y'all need to get on my level.


Who do you think you are fooling with blatant lies like this?

Just an incredibly dishonest and pathetic attempt to try to make newcomers think im a republican.
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May 31 2024 12:01am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 30 2024 10:30pm)
Yes everyone not parroting the approved democrat narrative must sound like Trump to you.
Democrats dont know how to respond to criticism from people who arent huge trump supporters so they carry on as if they are talking to one anyways.

You're literally citing a democrat think tank's press release as proof of russian collusion. Its literally propaganda that was proven to be a massive sham.
Their claim there is that Roger Stone talked to the hero journalist Julian Assange and then wikileaks released factual information that was bad for the Democrats.. Really damning stuff. Just not the way you think.

They threw in the fake bounties on US troops story for good measure.

Claiming the proud boys did more damage than antifa/blm is completely absurd and proves you dont know what you are talking about. What a foreign government labelled them is irrelevant.

"Fox news!" Cringe and pathetic. Do better.


The press release is citing the Senate Intelligence Committee report, which was led by Republicans at the time, and produced with their approval, which said that Trump's campaign chairman handed over campaign polling data to a Russian intelligence officer, during the campaign. VP hopeful Marco Rubio is the guy who led the committee when that report came out. Lawl. Bet he regrets that moment of integrity.

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Quote (Pyrotechx @ May 31 2024 01:56am)
You have no argument. When people present you with LITERAL facts, you go, "nuh uh! NPC!". You live in your own world, where facts are what you decide they are. You complain about some big dem scheme, yet if it were such a story, why haven't any of the Republicans opened an investigation?

So, what do you want to debate?


I tore apart several of your positions and you responded with fox news, republican, criminal and wonderland.

In particular you were embarrassingly wrong on russian collusion and blm/antifa riots.

I read your source. I correctly identified it as a democrat think tank that misrepresented the findings. I pointed out that what they falsely claimed was 'damning russian collusion' was actually proof of democrat wrongdoing posted by wikileaks.
The actual reports found there wasn't collusion, but you went with literal false propaganda instead.

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Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2024 12:00am)
Who do you think you are fooling with blatant lies like this?

Just an incredibly dishonest and pathetic attempt to try to make newcomers think im a republican.


Bro for Trump's entire presidency no matter how many times I asked you, the only thing you EVER criticized him on was for the bump stock ban.

I asked you dozens of times and all you gave me was "Trump bad" when I asked about the bump stock ban.

I don't have to do a lot of work when you literally refuse for years at a time to ever lay a single criticism on republicans.
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May 31 2024 12:09am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 30 2024 11:05pm)
I tore apart several of your positions and you responded with fox news, republican, criminal and wonderland.

In particular you were embarrassingly wrong on russian collusion and blm/antifa riots.

I read your source. I correctly identified it as a democrat think tank that misrepresented the findings and pointed out what they falsely claimed was damning russian collusion.
The actual reports found there wasn't collusion, but you went with literal false propaganda instead.


Can you specify how that link wasn't accurate? Which claims were wrong?
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