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Claiming mRNA research hasn't been researched and well understood for years is just blatantly incorrect. It's been researched since the 60s.
Fundamental research, but mRNA vaccines hadn't been tested in practice in meaningful numbers until the covid vaccines. And just for the record: I believe that the technology is marvelous and the future of medicine. Still: there is no justification to force people to subject themselves to this new tech as long as doing so does not increase the health risk of others - which it didn't.
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Vaccines are the entire reason we got weaker strains of the virus, that's how viruses work. They adapt to spread more efficiently once we get vaccines and become immune to the more dangerous symptoms. That's why the flu still exists despite people getting vaccines seasonally, and also why the bubonic plague is still around to this day.
Complete and utter nonsense. We got progressively stronger strains of the virus, first the alpha variant, then the delta variant, before there were vaccines. This was an evolutionary reaction of the virus to the mitigation measures: it became more difficult for the virus to spread, so that only the stronger strains which create higher viral load and are more infectious survived.
The delta variant emerged in India before vaccines were deployed in that country, and the efficacy of the vaccines against that variant turned out to be significantly diminished. What delivered the world from covid as a public health crisis was the emergence of the omikron variant which had evolved in non-vaxxed subsaharan Africa. Omikron was much better adapted to the human host and caused severe disease at a rate magnitudes lower than previous variants, which enabled the world to finally let the virus rip without healthcare systems crumbling. Omikron most definitely evolved over months in an immunocompromised person which fell chronically ill with covid, allowing the virus to speedrun its natural evolution to adapt to the human host. So if anything, southern Africa being full of people with aids is what coincidentally solved the covid problem for the world.
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You're fine not subjecting yourself to them, but that also means others do not have to subject themselves to you during a worldwide crisis. Same reason you can't go to specific countries without their vaccine and shot requirements since you'll be needlessly spreading diseases.
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I support basic right except when it jeopardize the lives of others. And I am talking about fully mature individuals who got infected because of these assholes.
Again: the covid vaccines did not reduce the transmission of covid or significantly reduce the personal risk of infection. In the case of covid, being unvaxxed did
not put those around you at greater risk.