This is false. There's a lot mixed findings. I can cherry pick 10 links right now that say it's a net positive and another that say it's a net negative. The issue is too politicized to get an honest assessment.

Reminds me of your responses when I point out its not contested in the slightest that illegal immigrants commit far less crime.

Just because you're bad at finding good sources doesn't mean the field doesn't have a strong answer. It's actually easy to pick out the political biases. Immigrants, legal or not, are overwhelmingly tax contributors. The only cases they are a negative is when there's so many they overload the system in the short term, but in the long term basically every good analysis comes to the same conclusion. Immigration is a positive and practically a necessity when you have low native birth rates.

and before you defend your ability to find sources, you literally told me you just watched regular content like libsoftiktok and not conservative only sources. You have literally zero ability to audit your own sources.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 2 2024 07:14pm

>Sources that agree with what I like to believe to be true are good and true while the opposite are bad.

Scientific thinking/10

You sound like Widow in the 2000's. He'd link some random article published by an anti-gay group done a week before a vote on gay marriage happened and claim "the evidence is too mixed to figure out".

The reality is that this isn't a close issue. The typical profile of illegal immigrants is working age, disproportionately industrious, and net tax contributor as a result. This isn't something that's been in contention for a LOOOONG time. It's only "contentious" if you listen to right wing think tanks instead of high quality sources.

The world is a very confusing place if you don't have the ability to audit your own sources. You look at flat earthers and look at NASA and say "well it's the same on both sides". In your case, you look at things like LibsOfTiktok and think it's a legitimate source, so your confusion isn't surprising.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 2 2024 07:22pm

My guy, you sound kind of dumb thinking that following random troll/comedy account on Twitter shows anything.

The issue is not settled, and I said it’s not conclusive because it’s a fairly complex issue and difficult to fully track. If it really was as settled as you like to pretend it is, you wouldn’t have liberal cities mayors crying about having thousands of illegal immigrants coming into their cities. But I’m sure you know better as your google skills are fire.

Following the account? No. I'm making fun of you for specifically telling me you don't follow only conservative sources and then listing one of the most prominent conservative propaganda accounts to support that. It shows your deep deep inability to question where your sources come from.


The next line is actually a perfect example of what I mean. That you think a mayor saying something has any bearing on the state of evidence on the subject demonstrates how bad you are at vetting sources for factual information. Politicians lie all the time. They say things they think will appeal to their base. They are uninformed on most issues, especially politically charged ones that impact their livelihood and career success.

The factual state of affairs is that it's been settled for decades that immigrants are a net contributor to the tax base and a mayor saying things has no bearing on that.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 2 2024 07:45pm

When a foreign invasion is occurring, you do not worry about the humanity of your invaders. You worry about the welfare of your own citizenry. Your appeal to humanity is why the situation has escalated to this point in the first place.

It's a jest/meme account. I can't imagine pearl clutching and being so triggered by some random twitter account. Kind of embarrassing

We're talking about illegal immigration, and no, no matter how many times you repeat it, the cost-benefit is not conclusive and the issue is not settled.

After the reception libs of tiktok received for simply reposting videos that libs posted on tiktok, meme accounts are now a primary enemy for progressives. It shouldn't surprise you.

Also, this pretense that every tom dick and harry in border states are hiring illegals is just utter bullshit. Thor's never been to a border state, let alone the border. The reality is that the overwhelming majority of illegals don't work at all, but are being provided housing, food, and cash benefits by the federal government, and at least here in Arizona, the State government as well. They're clogging up our public housing and hotels. They're using our emergency rooms as family care physicians, to the point that many hospitals have simply removed their ERs entirely and gone to cash-only, as Medicare only compensates 60% of the cost of patients who can't/don't/won't pay. These aren't "hard working people just looking for a better life". They sit around all day smoking and causing trouble for residents, and collect welfare benefits that are denied to citizens in need. It's great!

It doesn't matter whether they commit less crime. They came into the country illegally. They are criminals, they need to go back.


Why are you being such a apologist for illegals?

Would you open your own home to illegals, feed, clothe them and give them a room to sleep in? If the answer is no, why do you demand your country do so?