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Dec 22 2023 06:00pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 22 2023 03:57pm)
no one is forcing you, thats what youre missing. there is no law


Law is not the only way to force people. People like you are using social pressure to pressure people like me.
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Dec 22 2023 06:01pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Dec 22 2023 05:57pm)
like i said before, from my point of view, the left demands the conformity much than the right does these days. maybe im wrong, but thats how i see it.


The right wants you to be straight, cis, and married.

The right is fine if you're straight, gay, cis, married, unmarried, or really anything as long as you aren't harassing somebody else.

It's wild that anybody can look at the current state of affairs and think "don't misgender people" is the same level of demand as "if you are trans we will ban your healthcare and send you to a mental asylum".
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like i said before, from my point of view, the left demands the conformity much than the right does these days. maybe im wrong, but thats how i see it.

for daily use of pronouns, if corrected because i made the wrong assumption, i will use whatever pronoun they ask me to. however, i am not doing so because i believe it to be true, i do it because i am simply being polite. im not an asshole is real life like i am on jsp, haha.

its weird, alot of the times someone like myself shares this point of view, people often assume i am completely ok with people being oppressed. and no, im not. no one should have to suffer that, however i do have the right to say that i do not want to play along with your make believe.

for something like annorexia, we do not tell the patient that the treatment is to continue to starve yourself, so forgive if i think that encouraging transition is odd.


See but that’s a problem. You don’t believe in those people or the things you say to them. Like a chameleon you change your skin depending on your setting. As you said you’re just being polite. Be yourself. Your persona on Jsp (ie the asshole) is your true form. Embrace it
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Dec 22 2023 06:02pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 06:00pm)
Law is not the only way to force people. People like you are using social pressure to pressure people like me.


So you just misgendered one of the most famous actors.

You're in an HR meeting. Are you going to apologize and start using preferred pronouns? Seems like your detector is not very good.
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Dec 22 2023 06:06pm
Quote (AleKsRoBerto @ Dec 22 2023 07:01pm)
See but that’s a problem. You don’t believe in those people or the things you say to them. Like a chameleon you change your skin depending on your setting. As you said you’re just being polite. Be yourself. Your persona on Jsp (ie the asshole) is your true form. Embrace it


but why should i believe them when they have no evidence to back up their claims? and no, "i feel" is not good enough.

i embrace the fact that i am not on anyones team. im on my team with what i believe is right and wrong. being polite is part of who i am. i rarely result to petty insults first on jsp.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Dec 22 2023 06:07pm
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Dec 22 2023 06:06pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Dec 22 2023 03:57pm)


for daily use of pronouns, if corrected because i made the wrong assumption, i will use whatever pronoun they ask me to. however, i am not doing so because i believe it to be true, i do it because i am simply being polite. im not an asshole in real life like i am on jsp, haha..


thats all it is dude, its just being polite. ill admit that some transitioning people make me a little uncomfortable but its not my place to judge or understand them. i just try to be as polite as i'd be to anyone else....like a Hasidic Jew or a Muslim or a Mexican. its the basic social contract. most people irl are pretty decent

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its weird, alot of the times someone like myself shares this point of view, people often assume i am completely ok with people being oppressed. and no, im not. no one should have to suffer that, however i do have the right to say that i do not want to play along with your make believe.

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again, you dont have to play along or believe that they are trans or any of that, just treat people like human beings :thumbsup:
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 22 2023 04:02pm)
So you just misgendered one of the most famous actors.

You're in an HR meeting. Are you going to apologize and start using preferred pronouns? Seems like your detector is not very good.


Honestly, I would, just to make my life easier. But I just want to say that this is not right. The fact that there are "women" who look like a man is not right. And I don't mean the ones who have a disease that makes them look like a man. I am talking about dudes who think they are women, and the Left just enable them.
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Dec 22 2023 06:09pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 22 2023 06:09pm)
Honestly, I would, just to make my life easier. But I just want to say that this is not right. The fact that there are "women" who look like a man is not right. And I don't mean the ones who have a disease that makes them look like a man. I am talking about dudes who think they are women, and the Left just enable them.


Why should any woman give two shits if you think they look like a man or not? Why does your opinion on if its right or wrong factor into this on any level at all? Get over yourself.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 22 2023 04:09pm)
Why should any woman give two shits if you think they look like a man or not? Why does your opinion on if its right or wrong factor into this on any level at all? Get over yourself.


If you want people to talk to you, I suggest you act less antagonistically. A lot of times, people simply want to have a civil discussion with you.
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Dec 22 2023 06:13pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 22 2023 07:06pm)
thats all it is dude, its just being polite. ill admit that some transitioning people make me a little uncomfortable but its not my place to judge or understand them. i just try to be as polite as i'd be to anyone else....like a Hasidic Jew or a Muslim or a Mexican. its the basic social contract. most people irl are pretty decent



again, you dont have to play along or believe that they are trans or any of that, just treat people like human beings :thumbsup:


but if we can all agree that being an asshole is not right. we still havent handled the elephant in the room on how trans people fit into society. for all the dumb shit our lives have to deal with that interact around ones gender. things like if dudes should use the womens bathrooms. or can i be a woman on paper to save on car insurance... lol

i dont see how this is healthy for society. and could be potentially ruining peoples lives.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Dec 22 2023 06:21pm
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