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Oct 7 2023 04:47pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 8 Oct 2023 11:40)
looks like the half naked female corpse paraded through the streets on a pick up truck was in fact a german citizen

she was there to visit a festival..... RIP

what will germany do about it? send more money to terrorists and let leftie scumbags spread hamas propaganda with impunity

my god, i have a strong stomach, but its just sickening



good take mate, always good to guys with some actual experience


they will do nothing
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Oct 7 2023 05:05pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 7 2023 06:02pm)
So another question- what is the proximate cause for this conflict?
There's the null hypothesis, that Hamas was just waiting for an opportunity and to assemble an invasion when they were ready, trying to organize under Mossad's raider and pulled the trigger just because they could
but then there's the more macro oriented questions, like what if Hamas leadership rushed this plan out because they felt threatened by Israel normalizing relations with the KSA and all the other non-Iranian powers?
this flareup is going to have the immediate impact of souring relations between Israel and the Saudis right as Biden was starting to reengage on what Trump started after 3 long years of being asleep. Remember, this was the conversation just a week ago;
https://www.ibanet.org/article/D2659617-4CAB-4FE9-8B60-A971485EC3D6

Western media has been largely silent on it, but notably Arab media has been enflamed in the past few weeks on the eve of this deal, so there's a good chance this is the true spark


Simple answer is because there was no resolution in sight while Israel continued to build settlements and Palestinians were basically left in no mans land, forgotten, as Israel continued to normalize relations with the rest of the Muslims around them. I don't know how sophisticated Hamas is but I think this was the punch (maybe Iran sponsored/instigated?), fully knowing there will be a counter punch which undoubtedly will happen. The counter punch is possibly the inflaming that may drag some of these other forces and serve as the rallying cry.

I seen things on Twitter that Hezbollah warning that if Israel goes into Gaza with boots on the ground, they will attack (unconfirmed could be total internet BS). I could see relations between Israel and Egypt/Turkey/SA souring depending on what they do next.

Israel's foes in Palestine can't win in a kinetic way, but they can win by setting the region on fire and giving the snackbars a rallying cry. I mean look at all across the Muslim world. Literally tens of thousands in streets shouting praise for this, while there's literally dozens of footage of civilians getting gun downed and many more being carried away as human shields. Even if you hate a country, how can you cheer for unarmed civilians to be massacred or carried away like animals?

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Oct 7 2023 05:20pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KLIevvVzE8

livestream of gaza night sky (2 am local time) is absolutely popping off with missiles being fired out / coming in
/e big volley went out a minute ago, then a big israeli one came in and was close enough to shake the entire building the cameramen are in. Might not be a safe location to film, ya think

/e2 :cry: doesn't look good for our AP cameramen

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 7 2023 05:32pm
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Oct 7 2023 05:33pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 7 2023 04:20pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KLIevvVzE8

livestream of gaza night sky (2 am local time) is absolutely popping off with missiles being fired out / coming in
/e big volley went out a minute ago, then a big israeli one came in and was close enough to shake the entire building the cameramen are in. Might not be a safe location to film, ya think

/e2 :cry: doesn't look good for our AP cameramen


saw it shut off but nothing immediately before it, https://youtu.be/0KLIevvVzE8?t=8040 is a large one i saw earlier

This post was edited by majorblood on Oct 7 2023 05:34pm
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Oct 7 2023 06:05pm
this war should enable Benni to do whatever the hell he wants next.
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Oct 7 2023 06:17pm
Quote (ferdia @ 8 Oct 2023 02:05)
this war should enable Benni to do whatever the hell he wants next.


bibi not benni. you're new to this whole politics thing, huh?
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Oct 7 2023 06:18pm
The usa should just keep its nose out of it for once
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Oct 7 2023 06:25pm
Quote (Mastermule @ 8 Oct 2023 02:18)
The usa should just keep its nose out of it for once


how would that look? are you not aware that almost the entirety of israel's military is US funded or made?
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Oct 7 2023 06:27pm
At this point I hope Israel goes full occupation. Stop the slow burn. Just get it done so you aren't allowing thousands of children to be born so you just murder them later.
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Oct 7 2023 06:44pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 7 2023 08:25pm)
how would that look? are you not aware that almost the entirety of israel's military is US funded or made?


I don't get into those details
I am only smart enough to look at the big picture

And it sounds like Israel has the full support of the USA

Here we go again, just like Ukraine
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