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Oct 6 2023 07:50pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 6 2023 01:14pm)
I agree, it does apply. your stated purpose is to spread truth, but you're really just serving your own ego. you "seek the truth" for no other reason than to feel important in knowing things others do not. the truth could be 200 hours of wierd videos, or it could be your 12th re-read of the Silmarillion. you're trying to fill a hole inside of self worth, and secret knowledge offers the biggest shovel full of dirt. it wont work tho.


No, I want to fix it and go about my day.
Modern stuff isn't even my area of interest.
I'm a human origins guy.
I only do the modern stuff cause if I don't we all disappear.
I find that premise...unacceptable.
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Oct 6 2023 08:00pm
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 6 2023 10:46pm)
So you want cliffnotes for what took me 2 decades to put together?
Thats a tough order and ever tougher doing so off the top of my head.
Doing my best though.


Hey no rush or anything I'm genuinely curious about these views, this isn't meant as a "debunk the nazis!!!" thread or anything like that. I disagree with some of your views but I'm not trying to be disrespectful or argue in bad faith. We may never agree but I want to see the best arguments to make up my own mind.

I haven't talked to you before this but there are a couple other guys I've seen talk about similar stuff in a few threads but it felt weird to hijack them to talk about it in depth.
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Oct 6 2023 08:02pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 6 2023 09:00pm)
Hey no rush or anything I'm genuinely curious about these views, this isn't meant as a "debunk the nazis!!!" thread or anything like that. I disagree with some of your views but I'm not trying to be disrespectful or argue in bad faith. We may never agree but I want to see the best arguments to make up my own mind.

I haven't talked to you before this but there are a couple other guys I've seen talk about similar stuff in a few threads but it felt weird to hijack them to talk about it in depth.


Will work on it.
May take a bit though.
Saving thread.
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Oct 6 2023 08:05pm
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Will work on it.
May take a bit though.
Saving thread.


Can pm me sources and stuff if you think they will get you banned for posting, I'm probably not gonna watch a ton of hour long videos or whatever but if there is something you think is particularly important I would check out some longer content
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Oct 6 2023 08:07pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 6 2023 09:05pm)
Can pm me sources and stuff if you think they will get you banned for posting, I'm probably not gonna watch a ton of hour long videos or whatever but if there is something you think is particularly important I would check out some longer content


I use video's, but only if they agree with my research.
I never use them as a source material.
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Oct 6 2023 08:34pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 6 2023 06:44pm)
Sorry I forgot to correct, he mentions about how he confirmed this in the video you sent. If I'm not mistaken this is only the case for the Friedman podcast ATM? I know he did Joe Rogan as well but I don't think that one is documented the same way, not trying to nit pick but I think this is particularly important because a lot of our conversation is based around these stats.


it is documented and posted in the description of the relevant video but not as meticulous, the same documentation exists for every related video on the subject on the channel.

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We don't need to unless you think it is important I just wanted to highlight another example of a specific field being dominated by a particular race (numbers probably lower if we take into account all professional sports ofc) i think there may be other cases as well but I would have to double check. I think the main issue would be that political content has more impact than sports or many other things right? I don't disagree with that idea so we probably don't need to delve too deep into this particular topic.

It could be worth discussing but I agree it's less important than political influence via media representation

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 6 2023 06:44pm)
I just think it matters for the reasons I mentioned about religion and divine law etc. If all Jewish people were devoutly religious this would hold more merit for me. It sounds like our main disagreement is about the stats on representation. We could focus more on this if we come to an agreement on those, if that sounds fair?


The motivations and purpose definitely matters, but it's beyond the scope of what the relevant data can prove in this case. This would go into a very speculative opinion and would need much further data and discussion. I think you shouldn't think lack of outward strong piety necessarily means not having in-group ethnic preference and nepotism. You don't have to be orthodox to act in ways that prefer your own ethnicity. You can even argue it's easier to be subversive if you don't openly express religiosity.


Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 6 2023 06:44pm)
I don't disagree with your thinking on this, but for it to be true we have to agree on the stats which we don't. As I said I'm not trying to nitpick but if you are going to say 70% of all political media is represented by ethnic jews I think it needs a higher bar of evidence than one guy studying two podcasts, even if those podcasts are extremely popular and influential. I don't think that is unfair, I realize it is a controversial topic so not many people would be willing to do that type of research but for me personally it doesn't convince me 70% of all political media is like this.


If you are truly interested the information is out there to collect and determine, we've all seen the pictures of what ethnicity are in charge of what media companies -- but this one is for 'alternative media' which is generally seen different than CNN/MSNBC/FOX etc so it's particularly interesting. I don't have the data on hand of every single media in the united states, but I'd bet if you measured it there would be a trend of extreme over representation in more than the most popular podcasts.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 6 2023 06:44pm)
I would say of the two podcasts that JRE is probably more popular and widely watched (i didn't check this just guessing) so it is probably a better example to study, unfortunately I don't think he documented this one the same way so it makes it a bit hard to view the stats as irrefutable.


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But even if this guy has done a perfect job, I don't think we can just assume all media is the same based on his work alone. I realize this may be a subjective thing in some ways, but that is how it works in my brain, I may be stupid though :P

If you are uncertain but also interested, it would be a great service for you to tally up this information for different media resources and come to your own conclusions.

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Oct 6 2023 10:45pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 6 2023 08:47am)
It doesn't seem any more or less ridiculous to me than trans ideology really.



what a baseless statement, you aren't even fully sure of what you're saying, thinking of the only offensive thing you can retort to, and it makes zero sense lmao

low effort troll
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Oct 7 2023 06:33am
Quote (majorblood @ Oct 6 2023 11:34pm)
it is documented and posted in the description of the relevant video but not as meticulous, the same documentation exists for every related video on the subject on the channel.
Ah ok I see just checked it out a bit today.


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It could be worth discussing but I agree it's less important than political influence via media representation
Another time perhaps, the topic interests me but will derail the thread too much I think, already a controversial one without unpacking that :lol:


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The motivations and purpose definitely matters, but it's beyond the scope of what the relevant data can prove in this case. This would go into a very speculative opinion and would need much further data and discussion. I think you shouldn't think lack of outward strong piety necessarily means not having in-group ethnic preference and nepotism. You don't have to be orthodox to act in ways that prefer your own ethnicity. You can even argue it's easier to be subversive if you don't openly express religiosity.
I should clarify I don't think lack of faith means there wouldn't be an in group preference due to ethnicity, I just think religion creates a stronger connection than ethnicity. It is human nature to have in group preference but this isn't limited to just ethnicity and religion, everyone falls into multiple groups so it isn't always a clear cut case, especially in modern times where populations of people have become so intermingled.


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If you are truly interested the information is out there to collect and determine, we've all seen the pictures of what ethnicity are in charge of what media companies -- but this one is for 'alternative media' which is generally seen different than CNN/MSNBC/FOX etc so it's particularly interesting. I don't have the data on hand of every single media in the united states, but I'd bet if you measured it there would be a trend of extreme over representation in more than the most popular podcasts.

If you are uncertain but also interested, it would be a great service for you to tally up this information for different media resources and come to your own conclusions
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It was definitely interesting and the creator put a lot of work into it. You presented everything logically IMO I think our disagreements are mostly just subjective so not something we will probably agree on at the moment but it has made me consider things I had never thought about before. Whenever I have heard about Jewish people controlling media it was always in the context of them owning the companies, not being the actual people on camera/mic so it was cool to get a different perspective


This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Oct 7 2023 06:36am
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Oct 7 2023 06:48am
Quote (blahaj @ Oct 7 2023 01:45am)
what a baseless statement, you aren't even fully sure of what you're saying, thinking of the only offensive thing you can retort to, and it makes zero sense lmao

low effort troll


Isn't your whole schtick just being outraged and posting "this isn't true!!!!1!" While never actually debating anything or adding anything to a conversation?

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Oct 7 2023 07:27am
Good morning to all my fellow pattern recognizers! New day new conspiracy!

The attack against Israel was orchestrated by Israel in order to get the goys riled up and publicly support Israel, angering all the recent doctors and engineers,while promoting instability in the western hemisphere!

This is all according to plan!
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