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Oct 7 2023 02:04am
Quote (Malopox @ 7 Oct 2023 09:33)
This is a debating subforum. I’m attempting to have a debate with you and yet again you refuse and resort to insults. Why bother posting then?

It is obvious that events transpired are not treated and interpreted the same way by various parties and are used to advance and further various agendas, otherwise we would not have seen a major conflict erupt.

If you come here to release your personal frustrations, you should learn how to control your emotions better and perhaps hit the gym. It really helps.


why are you lying? your posts are literally here for everyone to read.

i debunked the typical pro russian spins by providing facts and context. you then doubled down on dishonest propaganda takes while hilariously claiming you had an open mind. you literally proved yourself a liar, there's not much else to it.

your repeated claims of wanting to debate in good faith are completely undermined by your actual posts, and your weird excursions into kitchen sink psychology full of projections and ad homs don't exactly help establish your desired self-image of an open minded and unemotional debater, lol. you're just another kremlin asset, desperately trying to spin russia's war of aggression into something else. stop being so dishonest...
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Oct 7 2023 02:13am
Quote (fender @ 7 Oct 2023 10:04)
why are you lying? your posts are literally here for everyone to read.

i debunked the typical pro russian spins by providing facts and context. you then doubled down on dishonest propaganda takes while hilariously claiming you had an open mind. you literally proved yourself a liar, there's not much else to it.

your repeated claims of wanting to debate in good faith are completely undermined by your actual posts, and your weird excursions into kitchen sink psychology full of projections and ad homs don't exactly help establish your desired self-image of an open minded and unemotional debater, lol. you're just another kremlin asset, desperately trying to spin russia's war of aggression into something else. stop being so dishonest...


Don’t forget that your posts are here for everyone to see as well. There is a reason people call you the Karen of PARD. Why do you think is that?

If you actually go back and read my post, we can continue this.

Right now I do not see willingness to engage from your side except claims of “dishonest propaganda” which you are struggling to debunk.
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Oct 7 2023 02:24am
Quote (Malopox @ 7 Oct 2023 10:13)
Don’t forget that your posts are here for everyone to see as well. There is a reason people call you the Karen of PARD. Why do you think is that?

If you actually go back and read my post, we can continue this.

Right now I do not see willingness to engage from your side except claims of “dishonest propaganda” which you are struggling to debunk.


guess what, when claiming to be open to arguments, and then resorting to just calling foreign invaders (admitted by pootin) "freedom fighters" when confronted with some context for the moronic claims of unprovoked shelling, is a pretty foolproof way of establishing that someone engages in "dishonest propaganda" rather than good faith debate.

you're doing that to yourself. you're debunking your own claims of being an open minded debater. again, everyone can read your posts, and everyone has long identified you as a kremlin asset - just to reply in kind to your ad populums...
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Oct 7 2023 02:41am
Quote (fender @ 7 Oct 2023 10:24)
guess what, when claiming to be open to arguments, and then resorting to just calling foreign invaders (admitted by pootin) "freedom fighters" when confronted with some context for the moronic claims of unprovoked shelling, is a pretty foolproof way of establishing that someone engages in "dishonest propaganda" rather than good faith debate.

you're doing that to yourself. you're debunking your own claims of being an open minded debater. again, everyone can read your posts, and everyone has long identified you as a kremlin asset - just to reply in kind to your ad populums...


I have already presented you my argument above at your exact point you copied almost verbatim and are raising right now again which you have thoroughly ignored and continue to insult me. If you don’t have an answer - insulting me will not show your superiority.

I can do this all day long and show you your place.

This post was edited by Malopox on Oct 7 2023 02:48am
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Oct 7 2023 02:57am
Quote (Malopox @ 7 Oct 2023 10:41)
I have already presented you my argument above at your exact point you copied almost verbatim and are raising right now again which you have thoroughly ignored and continue to insult me. If you don’t have an answer - insulting me will not show your superiority.

I can do this all day long and show you your place.


whatever you have to tell yourself, kremlin asset. keep making excuses for war criminals...
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Oct 7 2023 03:32am
Quote (fender @ 7 Oct 2023 10:57)
whatever you have to tell yourself, kremlin asset. keep making excuses for war criminals...


I asked you very simple questions in response to your repeated baseless insults while trying to debate in good faith. I asked you to back up your very loud statements with facts you claim you possess. If you are unable to provide those, I cannot help you.

I sincerely hope you have better things going in your life than attempting to assert dominance by posting random insults on a subforum of an ancient gaming website.

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Oct 7 2023 03:39am
Quote (Malopox @ 7 Oct 2023 11:32)
I asked you very simple questions in response to your repeated baseless insults while trying to debate in good faith. I asked you to back up your very loud statements with facts you claim you possess. If you are unable to provide those, I cannot help you.

I sincerely hope you have better things going in your life than attempting to assert dominance by posting random insults on a subforum of an ancient gaming website.


i presented you the FACTS (russian unmarked troops repeatedly invading ukraine, occupying administrative buildings), you doubled down on propaganda by calling them "freedom fighters".

there is NO reasonable standard by which that would be considered a good faith approach to debating the war.

calling you a kremlin asset is not an insult btw, it's literally a statement of fact. i'm not claiming you're being paid, i'm also not claiming you're too dumb to realise what you're doing, i'm merely stating that your uncritical regurgitating of moscow's narratives serves the war criminals in their goal of portraying their aggression as somehow justified...
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Oct 7 2023 04:27am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Oct 6 2023 11:28am)
I think you over estimate the US economy from viewpoint of an average American worker. Many people are calling the current situation a silent depression.

In 1930 average single worker income was about $4850. If you adjust that for inflation it's about $85,000 today. Today average work income is $56,000-$60,000k. 1930 was first full year of Great Depression. Keep in mind people of 1930s were not paying for the plethora of government services out there paycheck either.


Wait there is more,

885,000 full time jobs lost, but 1,112,000 parttime jobs added. - How companies get around benefits for employees like health care.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portland-residents-told-not-call-police-help

Homes unaffordable in 99% of US for average American.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/homes-are-now-unaffordable-us-average-americans

US already aided more than Afghan war
https://www.statista.com/chart/29375/us-military-aid-to-ukraine-compared-to-past-wars/

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Oct 7 2023 05:34am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ 7 Oct 2023 12:27)
Wait there is more,

885,000 full time jobs lost, but 1,112,000 parttime jobs added. - How companies get around benefits for employees like health care.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portland-residents-told-not-call-police-help

Homes unaffordable in 99% of US for average American.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/homes-are-now-unaffordable-us-average-americans

US already aided more than Afghan war
https://www.statista.com/chart/29375/us-military-aid-to-ukraine-compared-to-past-wars/


Eastern Europe is not just about stopping Russia from invading Ukraine, but it is also about the larger causes of personal freedom and opportunity that Americans and Europeans hold so dear.
If an expansionist autocrat like Putin is allowed to impose his will by force on one nation, Ukraine, the security and freedom of much of the rest of Europe and the United States will ultimately be imperiled, and we will likely be drawn again into a much larger, more deadly, more costly war.
Therefore, it is important to stop Putin now to prevent this brazen attempt by Putin's Russia to reconquer territory and reimpose the immoral and inhumane policies of the Soviet era on the people living there.

Your President Biden has also recently stated that a Russian invasion of Ukraine "would change the world," highlighting the importance of the situation.

And some source:
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-ukraine-matters-united-states-200393

Thus the points are well know, do we need to repeat it over and over ? U.S would be nothing today if foreign intervention didn't exist.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Oct 7 2023 05:55am
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Oct 7 2023 05:43am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 7 2023 08:34am)
Eastern Europe is not just about stopping Russia from invading Ukraine, but it is also about the larger causes of personal freedom and opportunity that Americans and Europeans hold so dear.
If an expansionist autocrat like Putin is allowed to impose his will by force on one nation, Ukraine, the security and freedom of much of the rest of Europe and the United States will ultimately be imperiled, and we will likely be drawn again into a much larger, more deadly, more costly war.
Therefore, it is important to stop Putin now to prevent this brazen attempt by Putin's Russia to reconquer territory and reimpose the immoral and inhumane policies of the Soviet era on the people living there.

Your President Biden has also recently stated that a Russian invasion of Ukraine "would change the world," highlighting the importance of the situation.


Stop copy and pasting to pretend you can speak English lmao

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-ukraine-matters-united-states-200393



This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Oct 7 2023 05:45am
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