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Aug 15 2023 05:48am
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 15 2023 12:33pm)
More likely Nigeria goes next after they fail to put Niger in it's place and is severely weakened as a result. Niger is certainly not isolated and is in no danger of being isolated. In time it will restore services and as a result of not depending on a neighbour anymore they'll be better off for it. Another country to join BRICS and abandon the US dollar.


Nigeria is completely different from Niger though. Also forget about BRIC's and all that, that is no where on the table here. For Niger the conundrum is the route to stability, unless I am completely off.

to my mind this story is going to go away, while events will not.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 15 2023 05:49am
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Aug 15 2023 06:10am
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Nigeria is completely different from Niger though. Also forget about BRIC's and all that, that is no where on the table here. For Niger the conundrum is the route to stability, unless I am completely off.

to my mind this story is going to go away, while events will not.


Nigeria is indeed different than Niger, but not that different. Nigeria also has issues with insurgents. They are in no position to waste troops on Niger.
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Aug 15 2023 06:19am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 15 2023 12:27pm)
Niger went from a French colony to a western proxy government and never grew beyond a total shithole being exploited for resources. Has being under the west's control done any good for them? What does the patently undemocratic government of Niger do for average Nigeriens?
The military junta are clearly nationalists and self-interested. They probably won't be any better, but its hard to denounce a country for trying to take back the self-determination that has been stolen from them


I never said Niger was under the West's control. I dont agree they were.

I didn't denounce a country for anything. The country elected a president in 2021 I believe. You say a country is taking back its self determination. When in reality the military have overthrown the elected government and removed the determination of the people

Using France as a scapegoat makes total sense though. Niger has had independence since 1960 and what have they got to show for it? Pressures of poverty, corruption and insurgency are holding back west Africa. Not ties to France or any other country.
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Aug 15 2023 06:22am
Quote (Vastet @ Aug 15 2023 12:33pm)
More likely Nigeria goes next after they fail to put Niger in it's place and is severely weakened as a result. Niger is certainly not isolated and is in no danger of being isolated. In time it will restore services and as a result of not depending on a neighbour anymore they'll be better off for it. Another country to join BRICS and abandon the US dollar.


Lol. Zombie status update.

While back in the land of the living.

https://www.africanews.com/2023/08/13/niger-black-outs-from-one-of-ecowas-sanctions-that-cut-off-electricity-hurting-business/

"The sanctions have left the land-locked country with minimal power supply as Nigeria, whose supply accounts for 70 percent of Niger's electricity, has cut off power supply to the country in line with the ECOWAS sanctions."

Maybe the wagner guys can jump on giant hamster wheels to power generators, what do you think?
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Quote (ferdia @ Aug 15 2023 07:48am)
Nigeria is completely different from Niger though. Also forget about BRIC's and all that, that is no where on the table here. For Niger the conundrum is the route to stability, unless I am completely off.

to my mind this story is going to go away, while events will not.


Nigeria is much more stable and 10x larger compared to Niger. They have insurgencies from Islamists but generally speaking they don't face much risk compared to some of these other countries. They are a huge oil exporter and the largest economy in Africa. Instability in Niger is a net negative for them for a few reasons really, refugees, the oil/gas pipelines, a home for insurgency but at the end of the day you won't see something happen in Nigeria compared to the string of Sahel-region instability.

More I think about this situation, I don't really support the coup because I think it's a net negative for the country as foreign aid is/will be stopped and they will be excluded/disconnected in many ways, but I also don't support any sort of armed intervention. I just don't really see how a war would actually make things any better? If anything it guarantees a lot of civilian deaths and for what tangible benefit exactly?
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Aug 15 2023 08:37am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 15 Aug 2023 08:22)
Lol. Zombie status update.

While back in the land of the living.

https://www.africanews.com/2023/08/13/niger-black-outs-from-one-of-ecowas-sanctions-that-cut-off-electricity-hurting-business/

"The sanctions have left the land-locked country with minimal power supply as Nigeria, whose supply accounts for 70 percent of Niger's electricity, has cut off power supply to the country in line with the ECOWAS sanctions."

Maybe the wagner guys can jump on giant hamster wheels to power generators, what do you think?


American propaganda puppet again fails to make any reasonable statements.
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Aug 18 2023 09:58am
dore does a thing on niger
“You Won’t Turn Niger Into Another Libya!” – African Leaders
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Quote (TiStuff @ 18 Aug 2023 17:58)
dore does a thing on niger
“You Won’t Turn Niger Into Another Libya!” – African Leaders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wgMR_B2bzU


The preferred solution is: diplomatic. If the option of an intervention remains considered, the "Economic Community of West African States" still seems to favor dialogue and diplomacy with the putschists.
Calls for a peaceful settlement of the crisis have multiplied in recent days, including among certain Western partners such as the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Community_of_West_African_States

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