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May 24 2023 09:48pm
Quote (addone @ May 24 2023 08:36pm)

It's certainly true for some of them, but not all. Normal people use accountants to accomplish same goals. You and I and Warren buffet are subject to same tax laws. Buffet is just smarter, has more accountants and uses more creative ways to pay less. I don't hate the guy because of it.


The tax code should be written so that people can understand them and be able to do their own taxes without professional help. Same with laws. Just my 2 cents.
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You forgot to add "in my biased opinion".



It's certainly true for some of them, but not all. Normal people use accountants to accomplish same goals. You and I and Warren buffet are subject to same tax laws. Buffet is just smarter, has more accountants and uses more creative ways to pay less. I don't hate the guy because of it. I simply learn from them and apply their methods and then reap the rewards. It's how the game was designed to be played. You don't show up to a football match with your 2 friends and your little brother then say well it's not fair how the opposition has more players and how they are all professional athletes.

I do think certain tax laws are just bad in general but not because I want to bring down successful people to my level. I aspire to to have millions/blllions of dollars myself I don't want to destroy those bridges. Big incentives generate big developments. I do think usuary, compounding interest and fed printing infinite amount of money are detrimental however and require major changes. But that is a law makers job to change those things. They are closer to the root cause than pointing fingers at some billionaire.


Those law makers are just like you and also see themselves as fuuture billionaires, thats the problem, an entire society built on hand shakes and a boys club of the rich and the aspiring rich working together to exploit the masses and keep them down.
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May 24 2023 09:49pm
Quote (addone @ May 24 2023 10:36pm)
You forgot to add "in my biased opinion".



It's certainly true for some of them, but not all. Normal people use accountants to accomplish same goals. You and I and Warren buffet are subject to same tax laws. Buffet is just smarter, has more accountants and uses more creative ways to pay less. I don't hate the guy because of it. I simply learn from them and apply their methods and then reap the rewards. It's how the game was designed to be played. You don't show up to a football match with your 2 friends and your little brother then say well it's not fair how the opposition has more players and how they are all professional athletes.

I do think certain tax laws are just bad in general but not because I want to bring down successful people to my level. I aspire to to have millions/blllions of dollars myself I don't want to destroy those bridges. Big incentives generate big developments. I do think usuary, compounding interest and fed printing infinite amount of money are detrimental however and require major changes. But that is a law makers job to change those things. They are closer to the root cause than pointing fingers at some billionaire.


The Billionaires are the goal post movers in your analogy. The tiny team and the professional just your rich and poor people. Wish I could elaborate more, know some people work at Billionaire sketch firm, they got stories. And yes, not ALL are awful, just a lot of the small group.

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May 25 2023 12:30am
Quote (JessiWan @ May 25 2023 03:48pm)
The tax code should be written so that people can understand them and be able to do their own taxes without professional help. Same with laws. Just my 2 cents.


Yea I agree. Same with any laws really they are written in legalese a language in and of itself.

Quote (Plaguefear @ May 25 2023 03:48pm)
Those law makers are just like you and also see themselves as fuuture billionaires, thats the problem, an entire society built on hand shakes and a boys club of the rich and the aspiring rich working together to exploit the masses and keep them down.


Many of the rich people teach you how to be successful and some show you exactly how they do it and how you can do the same step by step. Few have built their entire careers in helping others to become rich. You can find plenty online. So that statement is a lie.
You seem to have this jaded opinion that if one is bad they all are bad.
I dont doubt there are bad evil motherfuckers out there who are into secret illuminati enslave the world types but without evidence you are just spouting unfounded opinions.

Quote (RedFromWinter @ May 25 2023 03:49pm)
The Billionaires are the goal post movers in your analogy. The tiny team and the professional just your rich and poor people. Wish I could elaborate more, know some people work at Billionaire sketch firm, they got stories. And yes, not ALL are awful, just a lot of the small group.


Billionaires by virtue would have to have done some major industry change through the votes of the people. The votes being dollars for their products and services. Every time you are buying something you are casting a yes vote for that. A billionaire is someone usually with a lot of those yes votes. Not only in money but number of people who are willing to work for them.
Most people views are skewed when they talk about others anyway. If you never met or have inside knowledge on how most billionaires operate then all you have is opinions. I don't like jumping to conclusions untill I have substantial insight.

Anyway this is a tangent away from the main thread and discussing rich vs poor, good vs bad is for another topic altogether.

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May 25 2023 06:15am
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Billionaires by virtue would have to have done some major industry change through the votes of the people. The votes being dollars for their products and services. Every time you are buying something you are casting a yes vote for that. A billionaire is someone usually with a lot of those yes votes. Not only in money but number of people who are willing to work for them.
Most people views are skewed when they talk about others anyway. If you never met or have inside knowledge on how most billionaires operate then all you have is opinions. I don't like jumping to conclusions untill I have substantial insight.

Anyway this is a tangent away from the main thread and discussing rich vs poor, good vs bad is for another topic altogether.


I have :/ They want you to think it's tangential, Especially the Evangelist
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May 25 2023 09:05am
The secret to being wealthy isn't even a secret at all, it's well known, the problem is that not many people are willing to live that lifestyle

There's a reason that the Protestants and the Jews are far wealthier per capita than other religions or creeds. It's because of a culture of diligence, frugality, and higher education. Protestants became extremely wealthy in the 17th century to the present by working their asses off every single day, but instead of pissing away their profits on indulgences and extravagance, they re-invested every single penny they made.

You want to be wealthy? Stop wasting money on bullshit and start working harder.

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May 25 2023 09:47am
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The secret to being wealthy isn't even a secret at all, it's well known, the problem is that not many people are willing to live that lifestyle

There's a reason that the Protestants and the Jews are far wealthier per capita than other religions or creeds. It's because of a culture of diligence, frugality, and higher education. Protestants became extremely wealthy in the 17th century to the present by working their asses off every single day, but instead of pissing away their profits on indulgences and extravagance, they re-invested every single penny they made.

You want to be wealthy? Stop wasting money on bullshit and start working harder.


yeah that's true, there's no secret to keeping in shape either yet obesity rates are incredibly high

people don't like working hard and come up with endless excuses instead of making choices to improve
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May 25 2023 10:18am
Quote (majorblood @ May 25 2023 08:47am)
yeah that's true, there's no secret to keeping in shape either yet obesity rates are incredibly high

people don't like working hard and come up with endless excuses instead of making choices to improve


Exactly, and obesity is incredibly simple compared to generating wealth. I think it's an innate psychological defense mechanism to be unable to objectively criticize yourself and arrive at the logical answer. People tend to want solutions (having more money or being healthier) without any kind of change to their lifestyle or comfort.
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May 25 2023 07:38pm
Quote (El1te @ May 26 2023 01:05am)
The secret to being wealthy isn't even a secret at all, it's well known, the problem is that not many people are willing to live that lifestyle

There's a reason that the Protestants and the Jews are far wealthier per capita than other religions or creeds. It's because of a culture of diligence, frugality, and higher education. Protestants became extremely wealthy in the 17th century to the present by working their asses off every single day, but instead of pissing away their profits on indulgences and extravagance, they re-invested every single penny they made.

You want to be wealthy? Stop wasting money on bullshit and start working harder.


I became wealthy by pretty much doing the exact opposite of this advice.
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May 28 2023 05:33pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 21 2023 11:05pm)
Where does the idea that life begins at conception come from, and where does the idea that life is sacred come from?


Ideas come from the minds of people pretending to be philosophers, probably IDK I'm not a thought scientist.
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