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Mar 5 2023 02:00pm
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Trans women are women. There's tall women short women skinny women fat women cis women trans women etc etc.


Tall women, short women, women with big swinging peckers.

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Mar 5 2023 02:01pm
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Trans women are biological men,


There's no such thing as "biological men". There's males, but gender isn't biological.
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Mar 5 2023 02:04pm
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There's no such thing as "biological men". There's males, but gender isn't biological.


Gender isn't biological, but sex is.
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men are women


women are men
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Mar 5 2023 02:12pm
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Gender isn't biological, but sex is.


Yep. So trans women are women. Because man and woman are gendered terms not sex designations.
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Mar 5 2023 02:24pm
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Yep. So trans women are women. Because man and woman are gendered terms not sex designations.


You're obtuse on purpose. I already wrote:
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The crux of the debate is whether biological sex or social gender should take precedence when the two diverge. The answer might differ depending on occasion or context.



Just because you and your ilk have taken the position that the terms "man" and "woman" are supposed to refer to gender in all contexts and that gender has to take precedence over sex on any occasion, does not mean that this is a settled debate and your stance is the public consensus. On the contrary: the fierceness of the debate surrounding transgender issues shows that there exists no broad, public consensus on these questions yet (one way or the other).
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 5 2023 02:24pm)
You're obtuse on purpose. I already wrote:

Just because you and your ilk have taken the position that the terms "man" and "woman" are supposed to refer to gender in all contexts and that gender has to take precedence over sex on any occasion, does not mean that this is a settled debate and your stance is the public consensus. On the contrary: the fierceness of the debate surrounding transgender issues shows that there exists no broad, public consensus on these questions yet (one way or the other).


I actually think it's you being obtuse. You could have just said "yes I agree with this" and not even bothered throwing in the other stuff. We aren't talking in a thread about the nuances of how to segregate different sports. We're in a thread where somebody denies the existence of trans people, so throwing in all that other stuff really just looks like it's carrying water for the OP's transphobia.



Like, if somebody said "blacks aren't people" and I said "there are black men and black women and black people". And your response was "well nobody really questions that the real question is if blacks should be allowed in our schools and in our locker rooms and with our daughters, don't be obtuse".

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Trans women are women. There's tall women short women skinny women fat women cis women trans women etc etc.


what is a woman by your definition?
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I actually think it's you being obtuse. You could have just said "yes I agree with this" and not even bothered throwing in the other stuff. We aren't talking in a thread about the nuances of how to segregate different sports. We're in a thread where somebody denies the existence of trans people, so throwing in all that other stuff really just looks like it's carrying water for the OP's transphobia.


Natural disgust =/= irrational fear.
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what is a woman by your definition?


Anybody who idenifies as a woman or who identifies more strongly with the expectations typically associated with femininity rather than masculinity.
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