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Jan 25 2023 06:34am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 25 2023 06:17am)
100 tanks are not going to push Russia out of all held territory. If they arrive in time for any Spring offensive by Russia, then they will make mincemeat of Russia conscripts.
The balls in Vlad's court now. He played the nuclear blackmail card, he also said he wasn't bluffing. My money is on he WAS bluffing.

My guess is the Russians could deploy more conventional missile strikes, possibly combined with a spring offensive around Donetsk or Kharkiv.
I don't see them trying to push in the South around Kherson first. For the same reason Ukraine hasn't pushed across the Dnipro there, eg logistics and vulnerability when crossing the river.

It would make sense for Russia to take the initiative in attacking before main battle tanks arrive/are deployed.


When Russia massed its troops on the border, the question was whether he was bluffing. When Russia failed to take the country in a blitzkrieg, the question was whether he'd commit to a prolonged war. When the snow fell and cities were vulnerable, the question was whether Russia was start blowing up infrastructure. Playing at brinksmanship at calling his 'bluff' at every stage is going to send us right over the nuclear cliff at the rate we're going. The difference between this and the cuban missile crisis and previous standoffs is that we're actively killing Russian citizens in a hot war, and so we're no longer talking about whether a war goes from cold to hot, but whether it enflames from a NATO proxy into a full fledge nuclear conflict.

What escalations can NATO keep pulling before Putin uses his trump card? We're going to send them himars, then abrams, then what, f16s? Hand them the keys to the USS gerald ford and tell them to bring it back by 9 PM?
Either we're not sending enough weapons to make a difference, or the difference we'll make is forcing Putin to choose between backing down and going nuclear in a conflict in which he's showed zero signs of backing down and every sign of regarding as a full existential commitment.
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Russia has the right to use nukes since 1/2 of the world is ganging up against them.

The Ukrainians want to beat Russia and capture Moscow, something that's already been tried and failed by both the French and the Germans.

Czechia was the first NATO member to send several T-72 tanks to Ukraine in April 2022
Poland has sent over 240 T-72 tanks to Ukraine
Poland will send another 14 Leopard-2,
US will send 50 Bradleys and maybe 14 Abrams,
UK will send 10 Challenger-2,
Germany will send 16 Leopard-2
USA and NATO have sent to Ukraine more than 900 tanks and armoured personnel carriers.
How significant these numbers are? Russia has destroyed 7,495 Tanks and Armoured Vehicles so far.
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Jan 25 2023 06:53am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 25 2023 01:34pm)
When Russia massed its troops on the border, the question was whether he was bluffing. When Russia failed to take the country in a blitzkrieg, the question was whether he'd commit to a prolonged war. When the snow fell and cities were vulnerable, the question was whether Russia was start blowing up infrastructure. Playing at brinksmanship at calling his 'bluff' at every stage is going to send us right over the nuclear cliff at the rate we're going. The difference between this and the cuban missile crisis and previous standoffs is that we're actively killing Russian citizens in a hot war, and so we're no longer talking about whether a war goes from cold to hot, but whether it enflames from a NATO proxy into a full fledge nuclear conflict.

What escalations can NATO keep pulling before Putin uses his trump card? We're going to send them himars, then abrams, then what, f16s? Hand them the keys to the USS gerald ford and tell them to bring it back by 9 PM?
Either we're not sending enough weapons to make a difference, or the difference we'll make is forcing Putin to choose between backing down and going nuclear in a conflict in which he's showed zero signs of backing down and every sign of regarding as a full existential commitment.


ukranian nazis like the former german ambassador melnyk started pushing for western fighter jets the moment the leopard 2 tanks were confirmed ^_^

whats next, submarine or aircraft carrier?

gotta turn some more ukranians and russians into dust for some $$$, territory ukraine has not controlled in almost 9 years and other dirt no normal person cares about


This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Jan 25 2023 06:53am
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ukranian nazis like the former german ambassador melnyk started pushing for western fighter jets the moment the leopard 2 tanks were confirmed ^_^

whats next, submarine or aircraft carrier?

gotta turn some more ukranians and russians into dust for some $$$, territory ukraine has not controlled in almost 9 years and other dirt no normal person cares about



keep play fire games, then we turn some 50 country in dust radioactive type. Don’t cry then when have 6 extra eyeball because radiation.
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Jan 25 2023 07:09am
Quote (ZaDeda @ Jan 25 2023 02:08pm)
keep play fire games, then we turn some 50 country in dust radioactive type. Don’t cry then when have 6 extra eyeball because radiation.


i hope youvare getting paid for this :lol:
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Jan 25 2023 07:15am
Here's what i'm honestly thinking:

Shit Kremlin bots, Putin boots lickers, Kleptocracy supporters, Suprem-racists who loves Putin policies, are enjoying to spread fear and deceive their own country. TRAITORS.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 25 2023 03:15pm)
Here's what i'm honestly thinking:

Shit Kremlin bots, Putin boots lickers, Kleptocracy supporters, Suprem-racists who loves Putin policies, are enjoying to spread fear and deceive their own country. TRAITORS.



YOU IS TRAITOR, YOU IS PARTICIPATE BY RALLYING KIEW EVIL NAZI FASCIST ZIONIST JEW REGIME WHO ALL RETIRE IN TEL ALVIV AFTER UKRAINE PEOPLE DEAD. ZELENSKY NOW BILLIONAIRE, HE GAVEN 30,000,000,000 DIRTY BLOOD DOLLARS BY PUPPET MASTER IN US! THINK FOR YOUR HEAD MAN
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Jan 25 2023 07:42am
I watched a debate on Russian TV basically between Russian war mongers and their version of liberals (also pretty much pro war). In all of their assessments it was decided that NATO was not going to stop so what is the logical next step. More mobilizations, nukes, targeting 3rd countries where weapons are shipped from, etc. were all proposed and talked about but at the end one guy made a point about how this is also an asymmetric war and there are other ways to respond for the west to get the message that they aren't fucking around.

Blowing up western gas pipelines (i.e. Norway-Poland), cutting the internet sea cable, hacking of western crucial infrastructure and logistics, 'meddling' in our interests. I think what's been happening in Africa is really interesting. You're seeing Wagner gaining huge popularity, you're seeing African countries asking colonizer nations like France to get out i.e. Burkino Faso, Mali, etc. We recently sent troops to Congo. These aren't happening in a vacuum and there's a shadowy war being waged imo. I think before nukes start flying they'll work to undermine our interests abroad in a quiet but meaningful way. If we continue to push don't be surprised if western cargo ships or oil tankers are mysteriously being hit by Somali pirates or some other pirates all of the sudden armed with modern Russian hardware.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 25 2023 07:47am
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Jan 25 2023 08:27am
Quote (ZaDeda @ Jan 25 2023 03:14am)
Remember that when nuclear hit you did this for Ukraine, family burn for Ukraine nazi ok?


Russia is infested with Nazis. Hell, Azov got its start from a website run by a Russian.

https://jimstewartson.substack.com/p/iron-march-how-a-russian-sparked
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