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Dec 11 2022 06:06pm
Quote (mki @ Dec 11 2022 04:05pm)
So you're going to side with people who are calling for war against America?


You literally do not know what you are talking about.

They are not declaring war on America. They are declaring war on the Left.
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Dec 11 2022 06:12pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 11 Dec 2022 19:06)
You literally do not know what you are talking about.


Well, that's not true. You may not agree, but I personally do know what I am talking about.

Quote (JessiWan @ 11 Dec 2022 19:06)
They are not declaring war on America. They are declaring war on the Left.


I assure you that the people being discussed in the article would kill you and your entire family if they believe that it would benefit them.

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Dec 11 2022 06:17pm
Quote (mki @ Dec 11 2022 06:25pm)
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/12/11/white-nationalists-other-republicans-brace-total-war

I guess nobody should find this surprising after the republicans at CPAC flew a banner that read "We Are All Domestic Terrorists," but as the WW3 rhetoric ramps up, I would encourage people to choose the side of the US constitution. Granted I know that some won't and they will be killed in action or jailed as appropriate.

I realize this forum is mostly just gamers who aren't going to take any kind of action, but to be very clear about what is going on here: These people are trying to rile their supporters up to commit acts of terrorism against the United States so that they can "benefit from the outcome" while not being personally involved.

Please don't fall for it and please attempt to tell anybody who might that they are being tricked.


The Democratic party needs to take a step back and seriously evaluate the extent to which they've corrupted American democratic norms. There's still time for a center-right solution to the status quo. If Democrats insist on censorship and propaganda, they're going to start a fight they can't win.
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#14
Dec 11 2022 06:18pm
Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a good resource for this? It's not clear where they source data for their 'Hate Map' to be frank. FBI/DOJ had some solid data on 'Hate Crime' which happened disproportionatly in certain cities some love to cherry pick. The definition on their site cast a wide net on 'antigovernment groups', specifically ones seeking to curtail FED. If people choose side of the constitution, then they picking a limited FED...

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Dec 11 2022 06:18pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 12 Dec 2022 11:06)
You literally do not know what you are talking about.

They are not declaring war on America. They are declaring war on the Left.


You are literally a holocaust denier. How would you know anything at all???
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Dec 11 2022 06:18pm
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The Democratic party needs to take a step back and seriously evaluate the extent to which they've corrupted American democratic norms. There's still time for a center-right solution to the status quo. If Democrats insist on censorship and propaganda, they're going to start a fight they can't win.


I'm a little bit confused here.

What "propaganda" and "censorship" are you referring to?
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Dec 11 2022 06:20pm
Quote (RedFromWinter @ 11 Dec 2022 19:18)
Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a good resource for this? It's not clear where they source data for their 'Hate Map' to be frank. FBI/DOJ had some solid data on 'Hate Crime' which happened disproportionatly in certain cities some love to cherry pick. The definition on their site cast a wide net on 'antigovernment groups', specifically ones seeking to curtail FED. If people choose side of the constitution, then they picking a limited FED...


Multiple organizations are reporting this event. If you bring up a specific issue with the story I can attempt to verify or debunk it.
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Dec 11 2022 06:20pm
Quote (mki @ Dec 11 2022 04:12pm)
Well, that's not true. You may not agree, but I personally do know what I am talking about.


Apparently you don't.

The article you linked to literally did not say, anywhere, that these people wanted to declare war on America. On the Left, yes, but not America.

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I assure you that the people being discussed in the article would kill you and your entire family if they believe that it would benefit them.


It's pointless to engage in these imaginary situations.

Besides, they made it very clear, their enemies are the various factions of the Left. Not some random nobody on the internet and her family.

The fact you believe they would personally murder people tells me how biased you are. I don't need to take you seriously on matters on this going forward.
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Dec 11 2022 06:28pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 11 Dec 2022 19:20)
Apparently you don't.

The article you linked to literally did not say, anywhere, that these people wanted to declare war on America. On the Left, yes, but not America.


Do you understand that people who you don't like are allowed to be Americans?

Quote (JessiWan @ 11 Dec 2022 19:20)
It's pointless to engage in these imaginary situations.

Besides, they made it very clear, their enemies are the various factions of the Left. Not some random nobody on the internet and her family.

The fact you believe they would personally murder people tells me how biased you are. I don't need to take you seriously on matters on this going forward.


How is it imaginary? The organizations these people support were responsible for killing millions of people and actions of like minded organizations were responsible for multiple deaths during the events that took place on January 6th. Some of the people involved even loosely discussed how they would have "won" on January 6th if they were armed. Meaning they believe that their organization would "have won" if they had murdered enough people. And to be clear: We are not talking about "leftists" we are talking about the capital police, government officials, and possibly members of the US armed services.

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Dec 11 2022 06:30pm
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Dec 11 2022 04:18pm)
Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a good resource for this? It's not clear where they source data for their 'Hate Map' to be frank. FBI/DOJ had some solid data on 'Hate Crime' which happened disproportionatly in certain cities some love to cherry pick. The definition on their site cast a wide net on 'antigovernment groups', specifically ones seeking to curtail FED. If people choose side of the constitution, then they picking a limited FED...


If there are "anti-government groups" then the FBI should ask themselves why these exist, and if they have any legitimate grievances, instead of just labelling them as hate groups.

Personally I tend to sympathize with these groups. Going up against the US government is lethally dangerous. I really don't think people would make this decision lightly. They must have very good reasons for choosing such a dangerous path.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Dec 11 2022 06:35pm
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