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why would you want anyone to work out your math?
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Quote (tugofpeace @ Nov 18 2022 09:28pm)
Pfizer claims relative risk reduction is 95%, while absolute risk reduction is 0.84%. Now stick with me here, I'll make the math simple.

Let's say Pfizer takes a sample population of 2,000 people and exposes them to Covid.

1,000 people are unvaccinated
1,000 people are vaccinated

In the unvaccinated group, 60 die. 60/1,000 = 6% die
In the vaccinated group, 3 die. 3/1,000 = .3% die

Relative risk reduction = (60-3)/60 = 95%



Now, consider that for a healthy young person the survival rate is probably 99.7% or higher. In a relative risk reduction calculation ALL people are included meaning healthy and unhealthy.

Since that is the case, why is relative risk reduction used to market the vaccine as being effective for everyone?

If there was a trial of 2,000 healthy 25 year olds, whose survival rate is 99.7% or higher, the relative risk reduction would STILL be 66% if 3 unvaccinated died and 1 vaccinated died, yet in absolute risk reduction terms this is a 0.20% effectiveness.

In reality, if your survival rate is 99.7%, how can the vaccine be 95% effective for you? It can't. Even in absolute risk reduction terms, it's maximum effectiveness is 0.84%.

So isn't this a disingenuous way of marketing the vaccine towards people?


I mean sure, if you literally just make up a strawman while misunderstanding statistics, you can prove any point you want to yourself.
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Quote (Palasan @ Nov 19 2022 07:26am)
I gave you the ultimate answer, vaccine is 0% effective, the data about efficiency was twisted to make you believe it actually does what it claims, its an utter random chance whether you are vaccinated or not. But what it truly is, 1,000s of fluid titanium microchips are injected inside your bloodstream and make their way to the brain, slowly merging and taking control of your neural network (thats coming soon with new patches when they perfect 5G signals which are at the moment blocked by bunch of stuff). We are in the age of cyborg artificial intelligence, the mothership is about to land and take control. They took our jobs! We need to secure our borders by building fences! Move to the woods, grow your own food, stockpile guns and ammo, wear your tinfoil armor set when outside to stop MKUltra v2 if you already got the vaccine, invest in a trailer park property. When they come for you be ready! It will spare nobody!


Hahaha, I like how you're clairvoyant on future, though your solution presented also says " stock guns and ammo"

americans lmao

Quote (Sioux @ Nov 19 2022 09:02am)
I mean sure, if you literally just make up a strawman while misunderstanding statistics, you can prove any point you want to yourself.


That's not even what statistics are showing. In reality they're showing that vaccinated people tend to die more and go more at hospitals :) natural is the selection

This post was edited by Melatonina on Nov 19 2022 02:17am
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Quote (Melatonina @ Nov 19 2022 12:16am)
That's not even what statistics are showing. In reality they're showing that vaccinated people tend to die more and go more at hospitals :) natural is the selection


Sure, if you get your news from bitchute yea. In the real world, no.
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I am against immune system deniers.
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Quote (Sioux @ Nov 19 2022 09:29am)
Sure, if you get your news from bitchute yea. In the real world, no.




drees : The Directorate for Research, Studies, Evaluation and Statistics is a directorate of the French central public administration producing work on statistics and socio-economic studies

must be the same as bitchute

This post was edited by Melatonina on Nov 19 2022 03:15am
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Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 19 2022 12:35am)
I am against immune system deniers.


REEEEEEEEEEEE
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Quote (Melatonina @ Nov 19 2022 01:14am)
https://i.imgur.com/IgPWY1b.jpg

drees : The Directorate for Research, Studies, Evaluation and Statistics is a directorate of the French centralpublic administration producing work on statistics and socio-economic studies

must be the same as bitchute


Sorry, I don't speak gibberish. Here's actual peer-reviewed data as summarized and sourced linked by the CDC https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccine-effectiveness

Pretty misleading to stick a screenshot in instead of a link though. It's like you're trying to hide your source data.

This post was edited by Sioux on Nov 19 2022 03:40am
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