Children should absolutely not be adopted by people who are sinners who enjoy the exhibit of blurry quotes from a fairy tale book in order to establish a theocracy.
This does not represent all Christians ofc. Same for non-religious people: many of them are just doing it wrong. It's case by case, and very hard to figure out.

Well, I can totally understand your anger and pain, however you shouldn't blame Christianity for what the colonials did to your people. Besides, I think present-day white people are making amends, are they not? Here we constantly acknowledge the lands that we are on belonged to certain tribes of Indigenous people. We also give Natives a lot of special rights and not to mention a lot of them live on reserves that come with special privileges.

I’d agree not all Christians are “creeps”. I’d also be ok with extra screening for any prospective adopting family who follows certain beliefs/religions excessively.

For instance as a Native I’d expect any Native looking to adopt that follows most of the major non-accepted and even accepted practices to be investigated a little.

You do know Natives are about 1% of the population and in the US 2000 Natives (Women specifically) go disappearing yearly? The “amends” are a front to finish off the genocide or force ethnocide on Natives.

“Live on a Rez and be poor if you want to keep your traditions, but if you want to prosper you need to be more White and join civilized society.”


With that being said I do believe most people aren’t “bad”. But the governments sure are.

This post was edited by MadMan87 on Nov 9 2022 10:56am

Ok I don't mean to be argumentative, however I simply don't believe there is any attempt to force genocide on the Indigenous populations in this day and age.

Also, I can't comment on being poor whilst living on a reserve, however I have talked to someone who lived on one and he told me that they didn't have to pay property taxes. And this was just one of the many privileges they got. Besides, nobody is forcing them to be on a reserve. If they want to leave the reserve and join regular society, they can do that anytime they want. And in the mean time they still get to keep their status and can return if they so choose.

Have you seen the houses on a Res? Of course they don’t pay property taxes.
1. It’s their land not the governments. They aren’t the invaders here.

2. 99% of the houses would be forced condemned outside of the Res.

3. Yes they can join “regular society” but most rituals are still illegal in regular society so they need to leave those behind. (Ethnocide)


Back to Christianity. The largest genocides (including Natives) in history were perpetrated in the name of “God” by those who commit the crimes.

This post was edited by MadMan87 on Nov 9 2022 11:06am

Christianity did a number but so did commerce. If you date back the Hudson's Bay Company, Bay Boys were not so bad initially, its when you get to the 1700s and the Northwest Company really came on strong and their primary trade item was brandy.

At least the Bay Boys respected trade rituals and believed that pander large amounts of alcohol makes for bad trade partners. Once competition ramped up though and they no longer had a monopoly that went out the window.

Christianity came on after in the 19th century hard after commerce had ruined large bands from the Cree to the Chipiwayn to the Inuit and Dene and everything in between.

Then the federal gov't came on hard in Canada at least and did some widely inhumane things that just never get talked about in Canadian History. Taking large groups of people from areas like Northern Quebec and relocating them to places like Grise Fjord and saying you live here now because we need Arctic sovereignty because Russia bad. Meanwhile these people have no idea how to live in the arctic away from their typical hunting grounds so they just starve to death. Then the govt said well, we have to give them housing since we relocated everyone all around the north, lets build like 10x12 non insulated shit homes that instantly all moulded out.

I could rant about past atrocities and even current atrocities to date for hours.

This post was edited by SBD on Nov 9 2022 11:22am

almost certainly true, especially for fostering. but what alternative is better? group orphanage homes? plenty of horror stories there too.

I got one alternative. Make it illegal to adopt kids not from your country. It may not fix the problem but it would help get more LOCAL kids adopted.

They go out of country for the faster process to get the younger kids/babies

This post was edited by MadMan87 on Nov 9 2022 11:21am

alternatively, remove some of the hurdles with adoption so people dont have to go overseas. then again your thread is about banning certain people from adopting, so.....