Would make sense, Russian equipment would be purpose built for that terrain whereas the Ukrainian equipment is an assortment of things from foreign nations. Even the old Russian gear was built for controlling that region so they might even hold up better than some more modern NATO vehicles.

Winter is going to have a huge role on if this can go the winter. Russia will do better in the winter.

Yeah I think so too, gonna be a rough winter for a lot of people sadly.

Sure, I guess.

I guess things like HIMARS and other self-propelled artillery systems are sticking to roads, mostly? Would mud and snow seriously hinder their ability to fire and relocate? Do the Russian versions do significantly enough better in winter conditions to avoid that problem?

Guess we'll find out.

No idea about the HIMARS, don't have a very strong opinion on their winter war capabilities, I think it will be equally difficult for either side in those terms. The thing i think will force Ukraine to the table is the energy issue because it doesn't matter what equipment you have if you can't fuel it and the people who would man it freeze to death.

War of attrition it will survive the winter but 2 it might be a breaking point

But you are not thinking about buying extra pair of woollen socks and a sweater to keep warm. Only using power for cooking and taking a quick shower. The support will dwindle for sure

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Russians are already used to suffering under their shit regime. They probably won't know any different. They have years of suffrage under their belt. The old timers under the solviate era will be making fun of the new generations suffering.

Yeah which is why the economic war against Russia probably won't work

It's already provably not working. Not because Russians are ascetics but because as even neoliberal rag The Economist admits, Russia's economy is strengthening: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/10/11/as-europe-falls-into-recession-russia-climbs-out

Meanwhile, we today learned that amid higher-than-expected inflation yet again, Europe's manufacturing is in recession: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/European-Manufacturing-Sector-Has-Tipped-Into-Recession.html

Russia will be fine in winter, they have cheap gas and jobs.

It's Europe that's fucked, and no one can say Europeans "are used to suffering". They don't even know what it is.