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Oct 29 2022 10:53am
Quote (EaterOfSound @ Oct 29 2022 11:45am)
looks like it's time to be the guy that posts a dictionary definition.

https://i.imgur.com/CDPBc5N.png
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/prevent

Throw insults all you want, but that doesnt make your made up definition accurate.


If it cuts the spread in half nobody would balk at me saying it prevents half the spread.

You are just desperate lol. The vaccine massively reduces spread and infections. Get rekt
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Oct 29 2022 11:14am
reduction is not synonymous with prevention.
anyway, this thread is about the senate interim report.

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Quote (EaterOfSound @ Oct 29 2022 12:14pm)
reduction is not synonymous with prevention.
anyway, this thread is about the senate interim report.


Cool story. You're just hiding behind semantics
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Oct 29 2022 11:27am
I only trust scientific research done by senators caught insider trading.

Also his evidence in fig 5 comes from an MDPI journal which is a predatory publisher, and their date bands for "flu symptoms" are too large to capture the origin site. You can't be batching data together over the course of two months to find the original site of spread, you're just making a population density map at that point.

Here's a newer, more thorough research analysis looking at the early epicenter of the pandemic: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

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Oct 29 2022 02:25pm
a semantic argument is what's needed when people alter the definitions of words to create a certain appearance for their own benefit.

a vaccine is something that immunizes someone against a disease, preventing infection and therefore transmission.
the polio vaccine uses viral material to immunize a person against polio. someone who has had the polio vaccine cannot contract and cannot transmit polio
the chicken pox vaccine uses viral material to immunize a person against chicken pox. someone who has had the chicken pox vaccine cannot contract and cannot transmit chicken pox
those vaccines prevent the diseases

the covid shot treatment does not immunize against covid and does not make it so a person cannot transmit covid.
it does not prevent the disease

why does this matter?
the covid treatment is not a vaccine because it does not prevent (read - in full, immunize - as vaccines are supposed to do) covid.
trying to muddy the waters by changing the definitions of words was the cause of significant fallout in peoples everyday lives.
people lost their jobs over not wanting to be a guinea pig for an untested treatment when "the science" was saying it 100% immunizes and that was the official line


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Oct 29 2022 02:51pm
Quote (EaterOfSound @ Oct 29 2022 01:25pm)
a semantic argument is what's needed when people alter the definitions of words to create a certain appearance for their own benefit.

a vaccine is something that immunizes someone against a disease, preventing infection and therefore transmission.
the polio vaccine uses viral material to immunize a person against polio. someone who has had the polio vaccine cannot contract and cannot transmit polio
the chicken pox vaccine uses viral material to immunize a person against chicken pox. someone who has had the chicken pox vaccine cannot contract and cannot transmit chicken pox
those vaccines prevent the diseases

the covid shot treatment does not immunize against covid and does not make it so a person cannot transmit covid.
it does not prevent the disease

why does this matter?
the covid treatment is not a vaccine because it does not prevent (read - in full, immunize - as vaccines are supposed to do) covid.
trying to muddy the waters by changing the definitions of words was the cause of significant fallout in peoples everyday lives.
people lost their jobs over not wanting to be a guinea pig for an untested treatment when "the science" was saying it 100% immunizes and that was the official line


This is a dumb take. You've always been able to catch a disease post vaccination it just reduces the severity. For your example, the chicken pox vaccine prevents 100% of severe cases and has an 82% reduction in cases. Meaning you can still catch chickenpox if you're vaccinated.

This has literally always been the case. Look up that photo of the two boys with small pox, one with and without the vaccine.
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Quote (EaterOfSound @ Oct 29 2022 03:25pm)
a semantic argument is what's needed when people alter the definitions of words to create a certain appearance for their own benefit.

a vaccine is something that immunizes someone against a disease, preventing infection and therefore transmission.
the polio vaccine uses viral material to immunize a person against polio. someone who has had the polio vaccine cannot contract and cannot transmit polio
the chicken pox vaccine uses viral material to immunize a person against chicken pox. someone who has had the chicken pox vaccine cannot contract and cannot transmit chicken pox
those vaccines prevent the diseases

the covid shot treatment does not immunize against covid and does not make it so a person cannot transmit covid.
it does not prevent the disease

why does this matter?
the covid treatment is not a vaccine because it does not prevent (read - in full, immunize - as vaccines are supposed to do) covid.
trying to muddy the waters by changing the definitions of words was the cause of significant fallout in peoples everyday lives.
people lost their jobs over not wanting to be a guinea pig for an untested treatment when "the science" was saying it 100% immunizes and that was the official line


All of your claims are factually wrong, and we've known they're factually wrong for well over a year now.
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