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Oct 26 2022 04:37am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 26 2022 05:21am)
that streamer is quite toxic. i watched several of his video's previously. He caters to a growing audience.


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Thats a good quote. But to be quite frank: the video suggests that the british government is lax on immigration when in fact its not and never has been in my lifetime. happy for you to respond to this (or not). The Home office is at best quite anti immigration and at worst openly racist.

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Imagine if he was gay as well!

Ireland's previous leader was Leo Varadkar. He was and remains openly gay, His father was from Bombay before moving to UK. He is not pure white 120% ! funnily enough most people here like him (to a degree, he is a politician after all :)) Its great to have opinions and forums are a great place for a variety of opinions to clash! Ultimately I would like to think I would be judged based on my personal qualifications and not based on my skin or hair color, or where my parents where from, or even where I was born, what sex I am etc. Sadly the world remains filled with openly racist people and this subforum is a very good reflection of same.


Part of my family live abroad.
They have double nationality, they consider themselves both polish and british.
They keep their fingers crossed both for polish and british football teams.
They are not 120% british, their children also have some ties with Poland, with family over here, with me, they have some properties here.
So maybe their grandchildren will be the first generation to be fully 120% british, with zero ties to Poland and people here.
Its little bit like a priest who cannot marry a women, because he sworn himself to god.
A man with ties to other country shouldnt become a Prime Minister of a country. Its conflict of interest.
If a polish citizen becomes UK Prime minister, do you trust he will do what's the best for UK people, when Putin launches war on Poland? Obviously Im not 100% sure of that.
This is my opinion.

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Oct 26 2022 08:52am
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Part of my family live abroad.
They have double nationality, they consider themselves both polish and british.
They keep their fingers crossed both for polish and british football teams.
They are not 120% british, their children also have some ties with Poland, with family over here, with me, they have some properties here.
So maybe their grandchildren will be the first generation to be fully 120% british, with zero ties to Poland and people here.
Its little bit like a priest who cannot marry a women, because he sworn himself to god.
A man with ties to other country shouldnt become a Prime Minister of a country. Its conflict of interest.
If a polish citizen becomes UK Prime minister, do you trust he will do what's the best for UK people, when Putin launches war on Poland? Obviously Im not 100% sure of that.
This is my opinion.


except its a british citizen that is leader of Britain, not a polish or indian citizen. you could just as easily argue he is an american citizen. there are several countries in the world where "foreigners" can become the leader of that country, and you dont need to be foreign to wreck your country, as history and current events around the world will show.

also its not because he is sworn to god that a priest cant marry its because he is in a religion which may or may not have banned marriage. as an example, catholic priests could marry until the catholic church decided (around the year 1100) that they should ban priests from marrying, this meant that the priests possessions would become the religions, on his death. i am all for live and let live when it comes to religion and imaginary friends, but banning marriage is pretty normal in cults (and a religion by definition is another word for a very large cult).

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except its a british citizen that is leader of Britain, not a polish or indian citizen. you could just as easily argue he is an american citizen. there are several countries in the world where "foreigners" can become the leader of that country, and you dont need to be foreign to wreck your country, as history and current events around the world will show.

also its not because he is sworn to god that a priest cant marry its because he is in a religion which may or may not have banned marriage. as an example, catholic priests could marry until the catholic church decided (around the year 1100) that they should ban priests from marrying, this meant that the priests possessions would become the religions, on his death. i am all for live and let live when it comes to religion and imaginary friends, but banning marriage is pretty normal in cults (and a religion by definition is another word for a very large cult).


Are you sure that mr Sunak doesnt have a second Kenya nationality? Inherited from his parents?
Its not uncommon to have double nationality.
When it comes to making deals between UK and african countries like Kenya, are you sure it wont impact? Maybe he could choose to make deals with lets say Liberia, who give better terms, but he chooses Kenya?
And what about his Indian wife and Indian VIP father-in-law?
Its gonna be 100% fair and not biased at all, when making deals?
What if Indian people must run away from India because of global warming and lack of water, will such a guy have the balls to say: "no Indian guys, you cannot come into our beloved UK, die where you are"?
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Are you sure that mr Sunak doesnt have a second Kenya nationality? Inherited from his parents?
Its not uncommon to have double nationality.
When it comes to making deals between UK and african countries like Kenya, are you sure it wont impact? Maybe he could choose to make deals with lets say Liberia, who give better terms, but he chooses Kenya?
And what about his Indian wife and Indian VIP father-in-law?
Its gonna be 100% fair and not biased at all, when making deals?
What if Indian people must run away from India because of global warming and lack of water, will such a guy have the balls to say: "no Indian guys, you cannot come into our beloved UK, die where you are"?


He has a US green card, he does not have a Kenyan passport. I have double nationality and yes its not uncommon.
The guy is a multimillionaire, he is not out to help anyone other then himself and his friends. he does not care for Kenya, honestly.
England is in a tough spot geopolitically. he is the leader of the country and the leader of his party, but he is not a dictator. that means there are checks and balances in place as to what he can or cannot get away with.
England already has strict anti immigration laws. they allow rich people in and thats about it. If they struggle with undocumented people thats no different from alot of places.
i dont think i need to comment on his wife and father-in-law.

TLDR your concerns are misplaced. You appear concerned he is not 120% british (some might say a racist viewpoint) when instead he should be judged on what he actually achieves (or breaks).

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 26 2022 09:32am
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Oct 26 2022 09:37am
I heard this and to me the caller badly articulated an idea when he said Sunak "was not even British"

What he is actually alluding to, I believe, is Sunak's wife's "non-dom" tax status. Whereby she didn't pay the same amount of tax that she would, if she had normalised British tax status.
The colour of Sunak's skin is a non-issue. His South Asian heritage does however have a significant effect. It gives a "relatable face" to predominantly, India and Indian people.

There are some who are desperate for the UK to reconnect and establish more favourable trade with commonwealth nations, none less so than India and its growing consumer base.

As for people being racist. Yes they do exist. Fear has many faces and is a powerful motivator. It can render some void of rationality.


The question people ought to ask themselves. Is whether a former city of London banker, with an estimated worth of £720 million. Has the interest of everyday people of Britain in mind.
Sunak is known for being fiscally prudent. Ian Blackford asked whether benefits would rise at the rate of inflation to which Sunak gave a predictably flippant reply.

Expect austerity and more of it.

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Oct 26 2022 09:38am
But will he be able to do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke?
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Oct 26 2022 09:41am
lol, petty nationalist calling from their iphones, samsungs, etc. is this truly an accurate representation of the current-day conservative leaning voter? what ever happened to fiscal responsibility and gov leaving issues to the household and minimizing involvement in social issues.
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