"laws were broken"

But are those laws good or constitutional? It is a fundamental right in America to protest. An honest court would uphold that, but can you really trust courts to uphold a law that was made to convenience the courts?

Obviously not.

The courts in America have become pretty insane. They uphold things like the right of the police to seize your money and never give it back unless you sue them. They uphold the idea that you don't have a clearly enumerated constitutional right for police not to personallity steal and keep your posessions.

It's pretty ridiculous.

I don't think it's good as it's written as i dont think judges should be given special treatment. i also don't think judges deciding upon the constitutionality of this law would deprive themselves of its benefits

This post was edited by duffman316 on Oct 12 2022 10:21pm

that one will sting that little mole fella

inb4 that user’s typical repressed frustrated homophobic racist retort

what is this crap? so harrassment itself doesnt matter. but if someone else harrasses someone that got harrassed, thatl be 1 billion usd sir.

Oh look another one crawls out to confidently proclaim on a subject he doesn't know the first thing about.

Funny how right wingers come out to defend the most horrendous behavior.

I haven't seen anyone defend Alex Jones's behavior in either thread, I've only seen people denounce the behavior of the court. The distinction might be lost on you, but it isn't to anyone who cares about civil liberties. In a sane society, guilty people have rights and innocent people can be detestable and repugnant behavior can be repudiated by means of public debate and criticism instead of litigation and cloudcuckoolandworthy legal penalties. Nobody should be whisked away to some foreign jurisdiction they had no dealings with and subjected to a show trial that consists solely of a sentencing phase after they are prejudged guilty and then told they owe four times a John Carter budget to folks who could demonstrate zero actual damages and another plaintiff whos name you don't even know

Doesn't take any remarkable amount of confidence for someone to note that a billion dollars is an absurd penalty and only serves to reinforce arguments for tort reform

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 12 2022 11:15pm

Why aren't protesters going to jail? Don't you know I care about civil liberties??!?!?!

Civil litigation, like criminal trials, exists to protect one set of rights at the expense of another set of rights. When "protesters" are trying to tamper with a court, threaten judges or witnesses, they're violating the due process rights of those in court, and for cases of national import they are interfering with our right to be represented in a democracy. Much like rioters who try to interfere with the bureaucratic process of an election. And its incumbent on our law enforcement and courts to hold responsible the ones who violate our rights, whether personal or collective. That's all one big balancing act, taking liberties away from one to protect it for another. A real no-brainer when it comes to locking up a mass shooter to protect society. There exist some not so simple tradeoffs and matters for debate on which outcome maximizes liberty, but we don't have to debate those hypotheticals because reality keeps handing us cases where its far off to one nutty extreme. Like giving a free pass to someone who tries to intimidate a witness by throwing a severed pigs head at their home or who shows up to the front door of a judge in a high profile trial and explicitly threatens her. Or saying that some unarmed non-violent gawker who trespassed nonchalantly into the capitol and took some selfies deserves a decade in prison. Or saying that Alex Jones's false allegation of crisis actors deserves a billion dollars penalty.

I'm sure in a sane world we'd have some really tough tradeoffs and arguments over whats best for society, but instead we live in clown world and we have to argue about why it should be a hate crime to call a man wearing a skirt a man wearing a skirt.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 12 2022 11:52pm

Criminals escaped jail because of Fascist left-winger privilege to commit crimes (in this case, of intimidating a judge near his residence) without any repercussion, a privilege which was afforded to them by corrupt FBI a.k.a. the arm of the Fascist "democratic" party.

Law allows them to "protest" on a public space near the brothel your mother works in (for example) - not directly near the judges residence, which can cause radicalisation of a fellow leftist, causing him to try kill the Judge + Judge's family (which is exactly what happened, and what most likely their entire plan was)

Preventing such radicalisation of left-wingers who have murderous intent - is exactly why this law is needed, too bad Fascist left-wing FBI chose to side with criminals that incited a mass murder attempt.

This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Oct 13 2022 12:04am

You claim to be so fucking smart but don’t realize it is illegal to protest at a judges home. On a federal level. Oh and judges aren’t politicians. Oh and there was an assassination attempt that was thwarted on his fucking lawn in the middle of a night just a couple hours before the protests resumed.

Wow it is almost like you continuously say absurdly false things to make up points you wish you had.

Holy fuck dude


Like I feel kind of bad cuz the other day I remembered that y’all are just straight nerds with nowhere to gather your ego from but bro just stop fucking lying to yourself and everybody else it is just so sad!

Go talk about elves and shit with your buddies this here is real life shit that effects more people than you and your basement d&d buddies.

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Oct 13 2022 06:33am