The real reason why police exist is to keep normal people safe from freaky mental midget misfits like you.

The supreme court disagrees with you. The police have no obligation to protect your right to life or safety. In fact, the supreme court has been explicit about even if the police show up in full gear with as many police as they deem necessary with as much prep time as they deem necessary they are still not obligated to engage to secure anybody's safety. The police can, with absolutely no punishment administrative or legal, sit back and watch you get murdered while in full tactical gear.

It is literally the position of the highest court in the land that police have no obligation to protect or serve. End of story.


Additionally, there have not been police throughout history. Specifically in London before Scotland Yard was founded in 1829 had literally zero police. They relied on the Hew and Cry system where people would point a finger and the surrounding people would stop the accused. This was the normal state of affairs for the majority of the world around this time and prior to it. New York didn't have a police department until 1845 and there wasn't a constant military presence to maintain law and order.

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by your definition they're not obligated to protect your property rights either. And that's obviously true: see the black riots of 2020 where police stood down everywhere

like I said the function of police predates the establishment of a modern "police" department like you describe.

In the feudal system police were provided by the lords, etc etc

it's like saying that militaries didn't exist prior to the establishment of formal state militaries, where were also relatively modern.

Not only did police not "step down" during the Floyd riots, they actively and illegally abused protesters, bystanders. According to the follow up investigations police actively incited more violence than there otherwise would have been.

In fact the police incitement and targeting of legal journalists was blatant that jounralists in Seattle went to court and got an injunction specifically to prevent police from intentionally injuring journalists.



So to summarize

Police have no obligation to protect or serve you.
Police actively abuse legal protesters and journalists, and incite violence in such situations.
Police have not existed throughout most of organized human history.

Who is donal trunmp?

We never knew
Who is Joe dementia?

so you're changing the topic, okay.

I'll re-iterate: police are not obligated to protect property rights.

1. You first claim that police are only there to protect property rights.
2. I counter that they are also there to protect life and safety rights.
3. You counter that they are not obligated to protect the right to life and safety (perhaps true) to support your argument that they exist to protect property rights, implying that they do have an obligation to protect property rights.
4. I counter that they clearly do not have an obligation to protect property rights either and cite a recent example.

5. You change the topic and bring up that police "abused protesters" and say that they did so "illegally" without evidence

You're the one one who brought up the red herring of the 2020 protests and said the cops stood down, when they effectively did nothing of the sort. Were there cases where they did? Sure. Same with J6 (some stood down, some fought the raiders). But police excessively instigated violence where no violence had been occurring.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/29/us-police-brutality-protest