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Jul 28 2022 07:18am
Quote (Cannabist @ Jul 28 2022 07:42am)
Seems like quite a stretch


Satanist Alastair Crowley's Law of Thelema reads thus:
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law".

Libertarian novelist Ayn Rand's mouthpiece Howard Roark proclaims in The Fountainhead:
"Man's first duty is to himself. His moral law is never to place his prime goal within the persons of others. His moral obligation is to do what he wishes, provided his wish does not depend primarily upon other men."

Finally, a passage from Austrian economist Ludwig Von Mises, who admired Rand's elitist stance:
"The ultimate end of action is always the satisfaction of some desires of the acting man. Since nobody is in a position to substitute his own value judgments for those of the acting individual, it is vain to pass judgment on other people's aims and volition." (Human Action)

Beyond differences in wording, and even though Mises's version is more nuanced than Crowley's or Rand's, these three extracts are essentially saying the same thing.

You might want to look up Bernard de Mandeville also.


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Jul 28 2022 07:38am
Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Jul 28 2022 07:47am)
check his profile, that man got mental health issues.


I checked and had a bunch of broken links.
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Jul 28 2022 07:41am
Quote (sirthom @ Jul 28 2022 08:18am)
Satanist Alastair Crowley's Law of Thelema reads thus:
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law".

Libertarian novelist Ayn Rand's mouthpiece Howard Roark proclaims in The Fountainhead:
"Man's first duty is to himself. His moral law is never to place his prime goal within the persons of others. His moral obligation is to do what he wishes, provided his wish does not depend primarily upon other men."

Finally, a passage from Austrian economist Ludwig Von Mises, who admired Rand's elitist stance:
"The ultimate end of action is always the satisfaction of some desires of the acting man. Since nobody is in a position to substitute his own value judgments for those of the acting individual, it is vain to pass judgment on other people's aims and volition." (Human Action)

Beyond differences in wording, and even though Mises's version is more nuanced than Crowley's or Rand's, these three extracts are essentially saying the same thing.

You might want to look up Bernard de Mandeville also.


So if I do whatever I wish, and what I wish to do is farm, that makes me a satanist?
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Jul 28 2022 07:54am
Quote (Cannabist @ Jul 28 2022 08:41am)
So if I do whatever I wish, and what I wish to do is farm, that makes me a satanist?


It is a question of morals.
Is Libertarianism Immoral?
Of course it is.
It goes out of its way to be immoral.
It can’t be reconciled with any notion of morality, certainly no biblical morality.
On every point where the Bible says that man should or should not do something, Libertarianism says the opposite and calls it freedom.
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Jul 28 2022 08:09am
Quote (sirthom @ Jul 28 2022 08:18am)
Satanist Alastair Crowley's Law of Thelema reads thus:
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law".

Libertarian novelist Ayn Rand's mouthpiece Howard Roark proclaims in The Fountainhead:
"Man's first duty is to himself. His moral law is never to place his prime goal within the persons of others. His moral obligation is to do what he wishes, provided his wish does not depend primarily upon other men."

Finally, a passage from Austrian economist Ludwig Von Mises, who admired Rand's elitist stance:
"The ultimate end of action is always the satisfaction of some desires of the acting man. Since nobody is in a position to substitute his own value judgments for those of the acting individual, it is vain to pass judgment on other people's aims and volition." (Human Action)

Beyond differences in wording, and even though Mises's version is more nuanced than Crowley's or Rand's, these three extracts are essentially saying the same thing.

You might want to look up Bernard de Mandeville also.


Libertarianism is at worst, atheist.

You? You would have enthusiastically joined the Einsatzgruppen given the opportunity. Mr "morality."
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Jul 28 2022 08:15am
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Libertarianism is at worst, atheist.

You? You would have enthusiastically joined the Einsatzgruppen given the opportunity. Mr "morality."


I can imagine that many Libertarians consider themselves atheists, but they are not atheists.
It’s God is an abstract notion called Liberty.
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Jul 28 2022 08:38am
Quote (sirthom @ Jul 28 2022 08:54am)
It is a question of morals.
Is Libertarianism Immoral?
Of course it is.
It goes out of its way to be immoral.
It can’t be reconciled with any notion of morality, certainly no biblical morality.
On every point where the Bible says that man should or should not do something, Libertarianism says the opposite and calls it freedom.


I just provided an example that's not immoral. Your reasoning is arbitrary.
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Jul 28 2022 09:21am
A truly viable 3rd party will never be a real thing in the US as long as FPTP voting is a thing.
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Jul 28 2022 09:28am
I voted for Kanye's Birthday Party

It's YEEZY season!


In a perfect world though I would just have the GOP change their color to Purple or Bright Green and rename themselves the Freedom Party

The red is associated with evil in our society. Sub 70-IQ voters just see red evil people in Star Wars and associate the two things together subconsciously.

Japan is a perfect example. Their GOP named themselves the Liberal Democrats. Colored green. Absolutely brilliant aesthetics.
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Jul 28 2022 12:21pm
It's a hard choice but I'm going Kanye for President.
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