I'm using the terms the MSM and FBI have approved of. And according to those terms, everything you're saying is racist and fascist. China has not changed it's position or activity in any way shape or form since Biden took office.

So I ask again, what changed that I should now view this as an issue, when the MSM and FBI were telling me just two short years ago that believing anything you're saying makes me a fascist racist?

But I never said you are a racist or fascist.
I don't read America news that often to know why would MSM and FBI will considered things that I have wrote are racist or fascist.
You mean there is such a thing ?

Has China changed it's position or activity ? In my opinion yes. They are more aggressive now since Biden took office but only recently.
They were not that aggressive when Trump was around , but there was a huge fallout with the Huawei issue.

As a matter of fact , if Trump is still the president, there might be some deals that will be agreed and move forward with in terms of trade during Trump's second term.
And quite a number of problems might be solved.

There you go. That's what I was getting at. Nothing has changed other than we elected a weak President who has strengthened China so the danger is more apparent.

Nothing in this topic is particularly "newsworthy". My point was simply to point out that this has been brought up before, and to outline what anyone who brought it up was called. Hence the portion of the article I quoted. When a Biden Administration FBI Director is mirroring what Trump was saying during his 2016 campaign and all through his Presidency that the FBI and MSM were saying was simply "racist and fascist" you know where the issue lies. It's not with China. China is continuing to do precisely what they've been doing for the last 50 years.

The change isn't in China. The change is that with so many western governments devolving into forms of weak socialism that relies on Chinese production for every damned part of life, China now has enough power that even the most self-deluded globalist is starting to understand the danger.

But you are the guys who moved manufacturing to China. China is not to be blamed on this.

What Trump wants to do is to move a certain amount of business back to the USA and regroup solve some very significant issues within the states and when things are getting better , they will go out again.
But he couldn't execute what he wants properly due to political divide and issues.

I don't think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was around.

And it is also difficult not to move manufacturing into China, because there is a lot of money to be made.
Furthermore unlike huge countries like India for example where you can have unions, China doesn't have that sort of issue.

Corporate negotiate directly with the Chinese Government what they want.
You will have to face Unions in most countries.

Countries like Vietnam , Cambodia and Bangladesh are technologically way behind and the educated class are not good enough.
Their working class are not as dedicated in some sense.

You could have moved production to Africa, but if Africa would have worked it would have worked eons ago.

You tried it in Indonesia as well , where they have a 290 Million population with a sizeable workforce.
But as the world's largest Muslim country they are a challenge in day to day work life religious balance.

I do not disagree with anything you're saying. Every problem you're outlining is a fundamental flaw in the idea of globalism.

When you produce everything yourself, you are strong. When you rely on others, you become weak. When the US oil/natural gas production was higher than what we use (under Trump) global prices fell and the economies of Europe and the United States soared. The power of the Middle East and Russia tanked as a result. When Trump started penalizing companies that sought to minimize their overhead by utilizing Chinese slave labor, production came back on shore, and the economy soared, with almost no impact on consumer-level pricing, and the only hit being minor reductions in the paychecks of corporate CEOs and asset management firms.

Our response to the current concerns under Biden has been to outsource more and more of our power options to China, rely more and more heavily on the solar/wind solutions they produce, outsource yet more of our textile, tech, and medical production to them as well. Meanwhile, at home, we're trying to provide our President the "Right" to declare power emergencies that would allow him to dictate pricing in our power economy, thereby removing the ability for power producers on-shore to pay their workers, ultimately bankrupting them and forcing a scenario where the State must take total control over power production. The net result of these policies can be observed, directly, by studying Venezuela.

All of this, once again, has been pointed out, here in PaRD. Once again, the answer that you will receive, every time, is that you are a racist and fascist. China hasn't changed. We've simply elected a corrupt tyrant who has surrounded himself with the exact same type of socialist, globalist scum that Venezuela did.

The problem with globalism isn't that it can't work. It's that it requires a global government willing to enforce the same exact human rights standards all across the globe. That doesn't exist. So in the end, those who produce what everyone else needs end up controlling the flow of everything from resources to information. And every other government on the planet toes the line of that producer in order to not lose access to that which they produce. And right now? Everyone relies on China. Not everyone relies on the US. Not anymore. So... Slim chance China will become the world economic superpower? What do you mean "become"?

within the next 20 to 30 years slim chance that they will overtake the USA as a economical superpower.

It is affecting my business in Hong Kong what Biden is doing.
I could have suffered a little bit during Trump's first term. But his second term I would have reaped more profits.
But Biden have to come in...wtf.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jul 7 2022 07:17am

They've already overtaken us. You just haven't noticed it yet, because you're basing your view of the world economy on the USD and stock markets.

If you view the global economy in terms of production, and how one nation can cut off other nations from it's production to cause them to crash, China IS the world economic superpower. Today.

All that has held China back, really, has been their lack of innovation. Militarily, they're on par. When it comes to production, due to the willingness of the CCP to completely ignore details like "human rights" or "Climate Change" they're several steps beyond. The largest issue in China is that they lack innovation. They rely on western corporations utilizing Chinese land, labor, and resources to come up with new shit. China hasn't come up with "something new" since the CCP took over. Their trick is to take other people's shit, then modify or alter it for their own needs.

If the US went full isolationist today, China would simply step into the void and provide those goods and services the US currently takes care of, though not, I think, in a way that would benefit Europe. On the flipside, if China went full isolationist, there's a very good chance it would crash the global pharmaceutical, power, textile, auto, raw steel, and several other markets.

The problem isn't that Europe and the US cannot produce their own shit. It's that we don't, China does. To rebuild the factories, retrain the workforce, and bring ourselves back in a position of true bargaining power with China is difficult, but not impossible. However, when politicians can just get multimillion dollar payouts from China, when government officials can simply sleep with Chinese spies without so much as a raised eyebrow, and when China can just lower it's prices to a point where no on-shore labor in Europe or the US can possibly compete without cutting trade from them entirely, why bother to go through the effort?



Sorry to hear about your business, brother. Hope the tide turns at some point, but hope you have some backup plans.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jul 7 2022 07:28am

i'll make it simple. They needed easy ways to convince the mass through MSM/Social influencers that Orangemanbad was bad to make it easier for em to put someone else in place. People drank the whole koolaid and believed all the msm lies/hoaxes.

-Antivax are killers
-Jan 6th
-BLM
-WhItE SuPrEmAcIsT
-Transgenders
-Johnny depp trial
...

MSM drop one subject and the whole world get in line, talk bout it and get their desired reaction then proceed to the next one and so on.

Same thing when they all said; Trump reaction to Covid was garbage when they said Biden was insanely good when in reality, he did nothing at all but ride the wave.

The world is composed of low IQ people and a few smart wolves. It's very easy to dupe the whole planet. Just look around. 99% people live the same daily routine day after day after day while also working for shit ass salaries instead of being free. We'll never have strong people like our ancestors again.

Damn, I'm a leftist then