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Jul 3 2022 02:57pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 01:40pm)
i have yet to see a good guy with a gun bring someone back to life with it. it's almost as if guns are a net negative in terms of people being alive - but to be fair, i'm well aware that most gun nuts don't really care about life, even if they might pretend to in order to oppress women...


mass baby murders are paragons of virture when it comes to gun owner ship. I say they just wizzed of some one can defend themselves is what its really about. historical record is crystal clear what gun grabbers are really about, murderers and liars

Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered
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Jul 3 2022 02:57pm
The United States isn’t even top ten on mass shootings per capita (which seems to be the hot issue lately). There are millions of defensive uses of firearms in the United States each year, as opposed to 20,000ish gun homicides per year (majority being inner city gang violence within gun free zones).

Those two statistics alone show tens of thousands of homicides opposing millions of defensive uses (potential homicides) every year.

Another extremely dishonest talking point from the left.
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Jul 3 2022 03:08pm
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If you're basing whats "bad" on statistics, you may be considered racist. :wacko:


Checkmate
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Jul 3 2022 03:27pm
at least its not happening every week
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Jul 3 2022 03:34pm
Quote (Mondain @ 3 Jul 2022 16:05)
If you're basing whats "bad" on statistics, you may be considered racist. :wacko:

that user’s ancestors started 2 out of 2 world wars within 25 or so years.
they also lost 2 out of 2 said world wars. 100% in both how’s that for a statistic lmao
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Jul 3 2022 03:38pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 03:40pm)
i have yet to see a good guy with a gun bring someone back to life with it. it's almost as if guns are a net negative in terms of people being alive - but to be fair, i'm well aware that most gun nuts don't really care about life, even if they might pretend to in order to oppress women...


When I read posts like this from you I have to just assume it is satire. This is the most shit take I have ever read about guns saving lives through defensive use I have ever read. "A gun never brought anyone back to life". No shit Sherlock. How about the hundreds of thousands saved prior to being shot by evil people?
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Jul 3 2022 03:51pm
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When I read posts like this from you I have to just assume it is satire. This is the most shit take I have ever read about guns saving lives through defensive use I have ever read. "A gun never brought anyone back to life". No shit Sherlock. How about the hundreds of thousands saved prior to being shot by evil people?


can you show me a statistic supporting your claim that "hundreds of thousands" of people were saved from being shot by evil people?
anyway, even if that were true, they wouldn't have to be "saved" if the evil people didn't have guns in the first place, genius.

maybe compare homicide rates in the US with those in the civilised world - and that's despite the US already locking up more people per capita than any other nation in the world, meaning many of the "evil people" don't even have the chance to do their thing.

it's almost like the common sense conclusion, guns being a net negative, is supported by facts and stats, and all you have is some ridiculous fantasy scenario that gun manufacturers and their advocacy groups implanted in your gullible brain...
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Jul 3 2022 05:30pm
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the evil people didn't have guns in the first place


how do you accomplish this? the govt says no more guns, please very nicely turn them all in now?
I feel the same way about nuclear arms
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Jul 3 2022 05:47pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 01:40pm)
i have yet to see a good guy with a gun bring someone back to life with it. it's almost as if guns are a net negative in terms of people being alive - but to be fair, i'm well aware that most gun nuts don't really care about life, even if they might pretend to in order to oppress women...


You should check out Active Self Protection on YouTube.. lol tons of good stories with a good guy with a gun. Happens all the time... the media just doesn't cover positivity as much as negativity



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Jul 3 2022 05:55pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 3 2022 01:40pm)
i have yet to see a good guy with a gun bring someone back to life with it. it's almost as if guns are a net negative in terms of people being alive - but to be fair, i'm well aware that most gun nuts don't really care about life, even if they might pretend to in order to oppress women...


Probably. But criminals need to give up their guns first. Then the cops and THEN upstanding citizens.
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