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prostitution is one of the oldest professions of our species.



My personal view is that it should be banned, but i see this as being idealistic rather then realistic. ultimately slavery is alive and well on this globe (see here: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-still-have-slavery ) and along that vein then see here: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legal

more links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_New_Zealand

you can wiki the other countries from the image above to read more about each countries position. probably worth reading the Australian, dutch and german wiki as well. America is a bad model to take noting its such a large country (and is better considered as being a united block of countries with different laws). I dont see it as such a dividing point as abortion, but i am sure some people do see it that way.

the key take away from the above image is that Canada is massive!

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 29 2022 10:17am

its illegal in canada unless the WEF is pimping you out

Image is incorrect. Prostitution is legal in Canada since Bedford.

Mercator maps are greatly distorted. Africa is significantly larger than North America, but you wouldn't think that based on this map.

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Jun 29 2022 10:29am

WEF is still their biggest pimp

It's really very much common sense.

1) Would you like it if your children, when they came into their youth years, came to you and said "Hey dad guess what i'm going to become a prostitute for the rest of my life and make millions!"?

2) On a fundamental psychological level, having to sell our most intimate feelings for money is a very derogatory activity and makes us feel less worth than others. If you ask 1000 prostitutes if they would quit the prostitution business if they won first prize in the lottery, my guess is 99,99% would say yes. The last percent would continue because of psychological trauma and addiction to sex, which is a mental health issue that needs to be solved through psychological help.

3) On a philosophical level: Do we want our societies to be this way? Do you want to go to work and meet someone that you know has had sex with everyone you knew? Would you like to know that people you cannot avoid to spend time with, either professionally or personally, to have shared their most intimate feelings with just about everyone you know and don't know? This is about values, how we want the society to run. And it's about how we value each other. I want people to be able to choose their partners based on their personality, their values, their lifestyle, and their level of empathy and ethics. Not simply based on looks and how "good they are in bed". That's psychopathic. That's why bullies in school get to have sex with all the girls and ultimately destroy their hopes about finding good men, men with strong levels of empathy and ethics. That's why entire communities turn to drug addiction and falter. Because people lose their belief in a good future. Because evil men with psychopathic tendencies can't keep it in their pants - both that disgusting lanky prick and their money. Men with power offering hundreds of thousands of dollars to young innocent girls and destroying their souls in the process.

4) On an economical level: There should be civil wages so that people could afford food, shelter and electricity without feeling like they had to sell their soul just to simply survive. This is basically predation on the human soul and is of course initiated by the government to keep poor people desperate for jobs, which inadvertently leads to people prostituting themselves.


And that's the whole problem right here: We don't learn anything about values and these extremely important things, where we all go to learn what we need to learn to function in society: In school. We don't become life smart or intelligent learning about algebra, fractions and dictation analysis for 10 years. We need to get subjects like psychology, economics, empathy, ethics, life wisdom and such things in the school system.

This post was edited by Taurean on Jun 29 2022 11:02pm

its crazy how large it is in correct scale eh

1) I would be happy if my child found a career that they found fulfilling.

2) Firstly - prostitution based sex is not an expression of "most intimate feelings", it's the sale of a physical service, the same as any other. Secondly, if you ask any group of people if they would quit their business if they won the lottery, 99.99% would say yes. Employment is a means to an end (shelter, food, luxuries), be it prostitution or teaching or bagging groceries.

3) Why are you so obsessed over who has had sex with whom? It's perverse. Further, just because you make a moral judgment against prostitutes, doesn't mean society as a whole does or ought to. Also major, major incel vibes, lmfao.

4) If you're worried about living wages then vote for labour parties. A prostitute is one of the few workers in a community that gets sole say in their value and income. Again, prostitutes sell a physical service, their labour, not chunks of their soul. This isn't Harry Potter and the Sexytime Horcruxes.

This post was edited by 18nomaUSEast on Jun 30 2022 12:16am

1) Even if it was based on the wrong emotions, values and ethics? Even if they were a criminal that beat up people for their money, or had sex with married people for money? Do you not have any line or sense of morals or ethics? What do you teach your children about this subject?

2) No it is not. It is not a skill. It is an invasion of one's most private domain, that should be reserved for one's own wish to decide what others do with. Not feeling like one is forced to share it with others for survival. It is completely different. If you pay a masoner to build the walls for your house, that is paying for someone else's skill, for something you cannot live without. Paying for sex is completely different. You pay for someone to have sex without them really wanting to. It is essentially sexual assault. I don't disagree that most people maybe would quit their jobs if they won the lottery, but far less, and most people would continue working, but in a lesser sense. And most people would try to find meaningful work or occupation, because that is a basic human psychological need. And THAT is also something we should learn in school. But it is of course also something that is done wrong by the government; The free market. That means that anyone can undercut you, and this essentially becomes slavery. If there was something like a regulation in the market, people could go to work without feeling like they should work themselves to death simply to make a living wage. While others get rich on nothing. This is of course something that should be different. And something that leads to people prostituting themselves, which 99,99% would not do. But most people -would- work even if they had civil wages.

3) I'm not obsessed with it, and there's no need for you to come with personal allegations in a discussion like this. We are discussing the intricacies of a very delicate, but also very important, society issue. You probably understand the difference. I don't use derogatory stgimatizing terminology like "incel", you do, and i take complete distance from that.

4) In no way is it a physical service. Massaging and physical therapy is a physical service done by professionals, highly skilled and needed for working class people that get bad backs because of heavy lifting and repetitive work. Sex involves no skill. And if we are to build a society based on healthy values, to build trust and respect for other people's way of making a living, prostitution is no way to do that. People having sex is their business. I don't want to know about that, unless it's my wife. Whenever money becomes involved, that's when it becomes sexual assault.

This post was edited by Taurean on Jun 30 2022 12:48am